Quick MIDI routing question

Share your favorite Ableton Live tips, tricks, and techniques.
Post Reply
Ansset9
Posts: 9
Joined: Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:52 am

Quick MIDI routing question

Post by Ansset9 » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:50 pm

I'm trying to send MIDI data from a VST on one track to a Simpler on another track. I have the VST sending the data on channel 1, CC 22, and the Simpler parameter I want to control has been mapped to the same CC (I did this with my midi keyboard). There's a MIDI track taking the input from the VST channel and sending it to the Simpler. I know the MIDI info is being transmitted, because I can see it on the meter and because I have successfully gotten another VST to respond to the incoming data. But I can't get the Simpler to respond and I can't figure out why. Does anyone have any ideas?

8O
Posts: 5502
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:29 am
Location: Berlin

Post by 8O » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:36 pm

If you arm both tracks at the same time (the vst track and the simpler track), does it work then?
Image

Ansset9
Posts: 9
Joined: Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:52 am

Post by Ansset9 » Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:33 pm

I'll give it a try and see, thanks. I think I'll also take a screenshot while I'm at it...

Ansset9
Posts: 9
Joined: Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:52 am

Post by Ansset9 » Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:30 am

Okay here's a screenshot:

ImageImage

Track 1 has an audio clip which runs through the VST (Blue Cat FreqAnalyst), generating the MIDI data. The MIDI data is coming out on channel 1, CC 22, as you can see in the plug-in's settings window there. The MIDI track (track 3) take this data and routes it to the Simpler track (track 2). The Simpler has been set to be controlled by data on channel 1, CC 22, but it's just not responding.

You can't see it in the screenshot, but the meter on the MIDI track registers the data when the clip is playing. I've also gotten a VST plug-in on the Simpler track to accept and be controlled by the data, so I know it's definitely making it to the Simpler track.

I'm totally stumped on this one. Why isn't this working?

8O
Posts: 5502
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:29 am
Location: Berlin

Post by 8O » Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:22 am

Out of interest, why do you need track 3? Why don't you just set the midi-in in track 2 to take its input from track 1's plug-in? I would enable all tracks and all arm buttons simultaneously to see if that gets you working, too.
Image

Ansset9
Posts: 9
Joined: Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:52 am

Post by Ansset9 » Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:43 pm

Hmm, I didn't think I would need it either, but I was following instructions on the Blue Cat website. I'll try it without, although I don't think that it's causing any problems.

Ansset9
Posts: 9
Joined: Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:52 am

Post by Ansset9 » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:10 pm

I managed to get this to work by routing the MIDI data to an external out (on my M-Box) and then back to the external in by way of a MIDI cable. It's kind of awkward but it works. I think there's just something about Live's MIDI routing I don't understand.

Post Reply