What Pieces of Hardware Will Be Classics in 5/10 years?

ubermnd · Post by **ubermnd** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:57 am

what you're looking for is gear with the simplest interface yet the most flexible configuration.

It has to be the monome.

I'd bet archeologists will dig those things up and use them as evidence of the state of music production in our times centuries from now.

(disclaimer: quite hideously drunk, I invite criticism for any glaring stupidity this post may have provided....... hic)

lola · Post by **lola** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:00 am

ubermnd wrote:

(disclaimer: quite hideously drunk, I invite criticism for any glaring stupidity this post may have provided....... hic)

Oscar F · Post by **Oscar F** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:09 am

Hmmmm, I would have to say the following for various reasons.

1.RS7000 - even if you NEVER use the sampler and Internal TG it still does polyrythmic sequencing on a level I haven't found in software or other hardware based units.

2.Korg WaveStation AD - the Wavestation to have if you're going to grab one.

3.Clavia Nord Modular G1 and G2 - digital, modular, fx processor and more.

4.Electron Monomachine and MachineDrum - enough said there really as they are superbly defined and rather beautiful instruments.

5.Novation Supernova II - all ready rare as hens teeth secondhand and a much underated and beautiful sounding VA.

6.Ensoniq TS10 and VFXSD - way underated digital machines and then some.

7.Emu Morpheus and Ultraproteus - if I could have two of the Emu Proteus Collection these are the two I'd grab. Honestly do not think anybody has really explore the function generators and synthesis engines too their full potential on these at all.

8.Waldorf Xtk and Q+ - enough said really, these really represent how beautiful digital synthesis can be and to call them VA is pretty much an insult IMHO ...but I digress to much.

9.Kawai K5000S - did additive ever get any better than this in commercially viable and affordable hardware.

10.Genoq Octopus - superb step based sequencer with great updates, stylings and interface that begs to actually be played like an instrument and not just a sequencer. Will do things the RS7000 can't also for example but the whole ergonomy and fact that it goes beyond step sequencer and into the realm of interactive instrument pretty much says it all for me.

Homebelly · Post by **Homebelly** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:27 am

Oscar F wrote:
5.Novation Supernova II - all ready rare as hens teeth secondhand and a much underated and beautiful sounding VA.

I just bought it little brother the desk top nova. It was my first synth way back, i had to sell it to make rent one time and have always regretted it, saw one for sale on the net and grabbed it. Wicket awesom.

Oscar F wrote: 10.Genoq Octopus - superb step based sequencer with great updates, stylings and interface that begs to actually be played like an instrument and not just a sequencer. Will do things the RS7000 can't also for example but the whole ergonomy and fact that it goes beyond step sequencer and into the realm of interactive instrument pretty much says it all for me.

This one is my current wet dream.
I would give one of my kidney's to own one.

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:47 am

Just posting what I diodn't notice was mentioned:

The new Minimoog with patch memory.
All the Moog pedals.

The Metasonix Wretch Machine - tube synth, not for the weak of ear, or b0unce.

The Metasonix boxes.

Jomoz Sunsyn- I think this is already a classic though?

mikemc · Post by **mikemc** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:51 am

my genitalia

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:53 am

mikemc wrote:my genitalia

You mean [cough] your utenzil?

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:02 am

dj superflat · Post by **dj superflat** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:44 am

elektron MM and MD (if not already via mark I).

starving student · Post by **starving student** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:39 am

Oscar F wrote:Hmmmm, I would have to say the following for various reasons.

1.RS7000 - even if you NEVER use the sampler and Internal TG it still does polyrythmic sequencing on a level I haven't found in software or other hardware based units.

2.Korg WaveStation AD - the Wavestation to have if you're going to grab one.

3.Clavia Nord Modular G1 and G2 - digital, modular, fx processor and more.

4.Electron Monomachine and MachineDrum - enough said there really as they are superbly defined and rather beautiful instruments.

5.Novation Supernova II - all ready rare as hens teeth secondhand and a much underated and beautiful sounding VA.

6.Ensoniq TS10 and VFXSD - way underated digital machines and then some.

7.Emu Morpheus and Ultraproteus - if I could have two of the Emu Proteus Collection these are the two I'd grab. Honestly do not think anybody has really explore the function generators and synthesis engines too their full potential on these at all.

8.Waldorf Xtk and Q+ - enough said really, these really represent how beautiful digital synthesis can be and to call them VA is pretty much an insult IMHO ...but I digress to much.

9.Kawai K5000S - did additive ever get any better than this in commercially viable and affordable hardware.

10.Genoq Octopus - superb step based sequencer with great updates, stylings and interface that begs to actually be played like an instrument and not just a sequencer. Will do things the RS7000 can't also for example but the whole ergonomy and fact that it goes beyond step sequencer and into the realm of interactive instrument pretty much says it all for me.

whoa the giant awakens, where you been fax

starving student · Post by **starving student** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:42 am

infiniteB wrote:
starving student wrote:oh yes the rs-7000, i keep flinchin trying not to pick one up, saw one the other day for $475 but have seen them for 400. I'm trying not to spend more than $350 on any newly vintage stuff but yes yes yes in 5 years those things are going to be hard to come by. i think the sampling sucks donkey balls but the sequencer+ if you're a minimal samplist rocks so hard

you'll love this infiniteB, no less than right before this post I just scored an sp-808 for $100. in crispy clean condition, now that is another fuckin classic right there. and I know how to upgrade the software to an Ex-panded model
I had an SP-808--- loved that machine... the real time pitch shift was awesome

i had the orig sp808, then an 808ex, then an orig. 808 with ex software and then an edirol A6 for those who don't know which was an sp-808 that had a 2-16gig hard drive inside it, no d.beam but some extra fx and 32 virtual tracks, it was kind of like an sp-808 with a vs recorder inside

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:55 am

starving student wrote:
Poster wrote:Nord Modular G1
DSI Evolver
I was waiting for someone to mention those, what do you think will make them classics with in the next 5 or so years?
i know everything that has daves name on it kind of becomes instant class but i keep seeing alot of unknown or very much so called lesser quality similiar instruments that give the evolver a run for it's money, least thats what i see on you tube and everybody knows the mcnuggetnet doesn't lie. but i don't know that much about synthesis. i love what that dude denkitribe gets out of his.

You KEEP seeing instruments that give the evolver a run for it's money ?
list them.

the evolver is the obvious answer to this thread. fuck the waffle.
If most of you weren't such heinous philistines I might be more inclined to list a few gems.

I'd like a wretch machine for <$999, but it will never be a classic (you know it's true MW)

ubermnd · Post by **ubermnd** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:58 am

@tone

sorry to be an annoying skid stain on your kecks of rationality but the guitar is a classical instrrument and cannot be included in this list because...brrrrrrrrrrr(drum roll)rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. its an ancient istrument.

I'd love to see those medeival minstrels prancing from village to township with their korg ms20's informing the yokels aboot their pressing needs to bring out their dead and apply carrots to their women folk's noses to ensure they're not mistaken for witches through the medium of un-processed sawtooth analogue waveforms.

Might as well argue the same point point for the humble piano.

oh... wait a minute, thats a clasic too.

Homebelly · Post by **Homebelly** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:02 am

ubermnd wrote:@tone

sorry to be an annoying skid stain on your kecks of rationality but the guitar is a classical instrrument and cannot be included in this list because...brrrrrrrrrrr(drum roll)rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. its an ancient istrument.

Ahhh, yes!
But that is no ordinary guitar.
That is a $6000. hunk of Moog.
Yum-Yum-Yum...

ubermnd · Post by **ubermnd** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:13 am

Hey Roody come look at this..

Lets play a bit of Rawk an Roll...

Still though, I'm looking at my dusty guitars in the corner and thinking, hmmm, still not as revolutionary as the computer that i'm typing this shit on?!!!?!

lets have some perspective here...

will the guitar let you multitrack....... nope
will the guitar let you be the whole band (fuck off drums included)... nope
will the guitar let you fondle it sexually.... Absolutely...
Is it a modern classic..... the OP was talking about music making 'gear' so...

....

...

nope.

its a class instrument. the best their is. but come on pa, it in't modern.