Drill Breaks Programming

selim · Post by **selim** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:24 pm

i will be very happy if someone can help me to show the way to how to
> create crazy beats like:Venetian Snares or Squarpusher on ableton!!!

kraze · Post by **kraze** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:38 am

A quick and fun way to do it is to make 4 or so audio channels and throw a few distortion/filter/delay/whatever plug-ins on each. Then import/warp a break, slice it (ctrl/apple+E) and throw out the slices on different channels to make a pretty basic 2-bar loop.

Then bounce the whole thing down to a single channel, slice to 8ths/16ths and go nuts with envelopes, transposing, reversing etc. Duplicating (Ctrl/Apple+D) is a great tool when zooming in 16/32/64ths in to make those drastic drill cuts, especially when transposing/reversing select small bits.

selim · Post by **selim** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:31 pm

thank you very much Kraze
i will try it ! i will let you know if i will get it, very nice from you !!!
do you have a myspace or someting like that to listen to your music
mine is : www.myspace.com/twinsoffate

greetings bro!

fixed_up · Post by **fixed_up** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:17 pm

As far as effects go, try throwing both the Glitch plugin and beatrepeat over your beats and then recording to a new audio channel. Then chop up the beats and mess around with the follow actions. Live can start to sound like its got a mind of its own when all this kicks in.

pepezabala · Post by **pepezabala** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:09 am

you can do some fun-stuff with follow actions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wO0dFPeyXA

wehkah · Post by **wehkah** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:33 pm

hey,

it's very simple. first - you need a classic style break like amen or so... then you slice it to a drumrack. now have fun with re-arranging this stuff. messin around with glitch efx is not requierd for the startup. if you know what a beatloop does, you can build these breaks with any drumset.

at the finish you can take any efx on a bus and freak up with this

check "livecut" its a very nice beatrepeat tool

cheers
T

selim · Post by **selim** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:40 pm

yes i started using livecut already, but i got the new ableton 7.10 now, and you can slice to midi any wave or rex loops , amazing!!!

wehkah · Post by **wehkah** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 2:53 pm

yezzz man, that is what i mean. totally usefull and really mpc like. u can sclice and chop any audio file and rex but rex is no longer needed. digg a loop - slice it and have fun with it.

drumrack is the best and simplest tool i ever seen, ableton is like einstein for musicans

cheers
T

re.mark · Post by **re.mark** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 3:08 pm

toptip for drill: Get yourself some decent/clean Amen samples.

Theres quite a few instrument packs/drum racks come out for free with amen hits sampled in and a few good resources for nice clean (and some processed) Amen loops. you can then loop/cut/chop/rev/pitch etc to your hearts content

IMO the amen is crutial to the dill sound of VS etc.

manwell · Post by **manwell** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 3:32 pm

The best advice I ever got was from a Shitmat interview in Computer Music.

Take your amen break, warp it using beats mode, and drag out a few bars in the arrangement view. Find the first snare and split either side of it so it creates a separate clip just for the snare hit. Turn the warp mode off just for that clip, this ensures that it will be the original pitch but unaffected by the warp engine. Use this as your master snare clip and paste it over all the other snares in the other bars. Then start creating snare rushes by pasting the master snare at small intervals wherever you want the rushes to occur, shortening the snare clip to fit the gaps.

Now to create the jungle style pitch changes simply change the clip transposition up or down by one or two for every new snare in the rush. The clip will change length like it would in a sampler as the timestretching is disabled, shorten or lengthen the clip to fill the gap. Because the warping is turned off the snares will still sound heavy and punchy.

Then go crazy with the automation, sweep filter frequency or volume up or down to fade the rushes in or out. Automate reverb and delay send levels to catch the rushes and accent certain hits. Render it all out, re-import it and use beatcutters like Glitch and Livecut over it while recording. Render this and re-import it, then find the best bits and assemble them into a longer sequence with your other instruments.

Keep repeating these techniques until you have enough good bits to make your tune.

kraze · Post by **kraze** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:55 am

And since no one mentioned it:

Never, NEVER underestimate Granular Re-Synthesis.

britt-stinker · Post by **britt-stinker** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:52 am

I must say that - what helped me the most, of all things you can do to what ever break you choose(or drum hits), is to slice them to a new midi rack then layer with drum hits and render them. Bring these into a new drumrack and play around with the volume envelope. This will(atleast for me) bring out the attack more on all the snare hits, since in becomes shorter..... I hope this makes an sense... haha

Forgot one thing, pitch the break to - to shorten the hit

emef · Post by **emef** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:08 am

selim wrote:i will be very happy if someone can help me to show the way to how to
> create crazy beats like:Venetian Snares or Squarpusher on ableton!!!

venetian snares uses a tracker called RENOISE
quite a bit of his sound comes from the way programming is carried out in renoise