Trying to get ableton quantize to sound like mpc ...

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lola
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Post by lola » Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:40 am

suie_paparude wrote:
lola wrote:
suie_paparude wrote:try sample producer's goldbaby freebie mpc templates that can be loaded in live.these are midi files.

http://www.goldbaby.co.nz/freestuff.html


to apply all these mpc quantize settings try this :
1.load a rim stick sound in a sampler.
2.load a midi file from goldbaby and play that rim stick sound
3.render audio
4.manual edit warp markers for the rendered file to match exactly the rim stick sounds.
5.copy the sound clip in the arrangement on an audio track and loop it for several measures
6.set the master tab to "on" in clip properites

this clip int he first track of your arrangement will behave like a groove template for all your arrangement and will force-control tempo of your song in order to behave like the original mpc midi file.
you can consider this first track like a master track that controls your swing for all the other tracks

in this way all your audio and midi clips that you will bring in the arrangement will have mpc feel :-))

hope this helps
mihai
Too bad beatrepeat and delays won't be affected by that groove :(

I think beat repeat and delays ARE affected by the groove.
Master clips are dealing with automating the tempo according to warp markers so,
if you watch the tempo values , they change very rapidly according to your warp master clip's markers and also you can se the red automation dot in the tempo display.
beat repeat and delays are tempo related and they change in relation with tempo value change.

i think it's a nice workaround from ableton in fact it's more creative,playing with master clip's markers i can create groove templates of my own,and saving the clips as groove templates for further use in my songs.
in fact you can have from measure 1-to 16 for example mpc 60 feel and from 16- to the end half speed dubstep feel or anything you can find good sounding after playing with master clip's warp markers.
it's nice to hear your whole song's feel is changing only moving a little bit one marker.

hope this helps,
mihai
Thanks for the tip, i tried it, recorded the clips (with rim) at 120, load one in ableton, adjusted the warp markers, but for some odd reason all clips play at 60 bpm... while i recorded the master clip at 120?? this can't be adjusted because the master clip masters the tempo..
what am i doing wrong here?

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Post by suie_paparude » Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:21 pm

under the master/slave tab you have "Seg.bpm" and 2 tabs labeled ": 2 and x2".i use these to tweak the tempo even it is slaved by the master clip.

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