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I want to use the XY pad on the Korg padKontrol to control the XY pad in Live.
By this I mean, I want the PK to always control the Live XY pad for a particular track; if I change the Live X and Y parameters, the PK will always control them, no matter what I have it set to.
I have tried the MIDI mapping but with no luck. Is there something in the PK that needs to be changed?
Also, I am hoping to have the XY ball in Live to update according to my PK XY movements.
Is any of this possible? Thanks alot for any info...
Getting the Korg padKontrol to work with Live's XY pad
If I understand what you want to do correctly, I don't think this is possible.
IIRC the only time Live's XY control displays is when you have you have a third party plugin in your track. What you want to do is control your plugin with your PK's XY-pad, but change on the fly which parameters are controlled, by changing which params are linked to Live's XY control. Does that sound right?
Anyway, I don't think you can do this, because the XY control isn't a device in its own right; but you could do something similar by wrapping your plugin in a rack, and mapping your PK's xy-pad to macro knobs and changing the assignment of these knobs on the fly. The PK stays mapped to the knobs, and you change which plugin parameters the knobs control.
Of course, if you don't want to change the assignment on the fly just assign the PK's X and Y controls to your plugin and your done. This is kind of a pain, because the PK always seems to send both X and Y together, and always Y second, but if you are careful with your fingers, and with switching midi map mode on and off, you can do it.
IIRC the only time Live's XY control displays is when you have you have a third party plugin in your track. What you want to do is control your plugin with your PK's XY-pad, but change on the fly which parameters are controlled, by changing which params are linked to Live's XY control. Does that sound right?
Anyway, I don't think you can do this, because the XY control isn't a device in its own right; but you could do something similar by wrapping your plugin in a rack, and mapping your PK's xy-pad to macro knobs and changing the assignment of these knobs on the fly. The PK stays mapped to the knobs, and you change which plugin parameters the knobs control.
Of course, if you don't want to change the assignment on the fly just assign the PK's X and Y controls to your plugin and your done. This is kind of a pain, because the PK always seems to send both X and Y together, and always Y second, but if you are careful with your fingers, and with switching midi map mode on and off, you can do it.
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archetype303
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You can achieve what you're asking about by using the padKontrol editor to set up your desired MIDI mapping and saving it to the pK.
The key is to have the xy pad always sending the same CC's on the same channel, regardless of which scene you're in. This way you can change the function of what the pads and knobs are doing, but the xy pad will always control what you've assigned it to.
I do a LOT of complex mapping and routing in all my live setups, using a pK, microKontrol, Kore 2, monome, microKorg, sometimes a 707. The limitations of MIDI (only 16 channels, 128 parameters with 128 values each, 128 notes) are the biggest issue. You don't want any of your assignments to cross each other.
For instance, at the last show I played, I was running a patch on the monome chopping up loops, and the CC assignment from that happened to be the same as the one for master volume control in Live, which kept going up and down with the loop. Very annoying, but a quick fix on the fly.
Just keep your controls on separate MIDI channels, or if you run out of those, then you can use the entire range of CC's and notes within a channel to divide them up. Good luck.
The key is to have the xy pad always sending the same CC's on the same channel, regardless of which scene you're in. This way you can change the function of what the pads and knobs are doing, but the xy pad will always control what you've assigned it to.
I do a LOT of complex mapping and routing in all my live setups, using a pK, microKontrol, Kore 2, monome, microKorg, sometimes a 707. The limitations of MIDI (only 16 channels, 128 parameters with 128 values each, 128 notes) are the biggest issue. You don't want any of your assignments to cross each other.
For instance, at the last show I played, I was running a patch on the monome chopping up loops, and the CC assignment from that happened to be the same as the one for master volume control in Live, which kept going up and down with the loop. Very annoying, but a quick fix on the fly.
Just keep your controls on separate MIDI channels, or if you run out of those, then you can use the entire range of CC's and notes within a channel to divide them up. Good luck.
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archetype303
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You can also use the editor to easily alter the way that the xy pad works. You can change which CC's it uses, and their polarity. You can also choose which values they reset to when you "release" them, like a real pitch bend wheel.
It may be useful to set the xy pad up so that the default "release" location is in the bottom left corner of the pad. This way you have the full width and height of the pad to use for each axis. So bottom left could be off, and top right could be full on of both parameters. This allows you to control and blend your effects fairly accurately.
It may be useful to set the xy pad up so that the default "release" location is in the bottom left corner of the pad. This way you have the full width and height of the pad to use for each axis. So bottom left could be off, and top right could be full on of both parameters. This allows you to control and blend your effects fairly accurately.