The first Detroit techno influence actually came from.....

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Post by phil909 » Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:13 pm

sweetjesus wrote:
phil909 wrote:the question is, where have the italians been recently?
benny benassi is the reason everything is sidechained to fuck now..

also check out "the bloody beetroots", from italy n pretty huge in the underground

as the other poster said, the daft punk crew kick-started the massive sidechain trend.
benassi was a good few years later. i'm sure there's lots of great individual tracks coming out of italy, i was talking more about a new genre/scene.....

lola, i actually think the germans were pretty on it in the early 90's, perhaps not at the techno side of things but they pretty much invented trance (on second thoughts, is that a good thing?).

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Post by cressy » Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:58 pm

thelike5 wrote:Of course it came from Italy. Italo House was a huge influence on Detroit.

By the way; there is A TON of money just waiting to be made by the next band bold enough to dig through the ranks of some of those Italo records and piece together their own sound.

Literally millions...
Ladytron are doing ok I guess. Not sure about millions tho :lol:

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Post by lola » Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:46 pm

phil909 wrote:
lola, i actually think the germans were pretty on it in the early 90's, perhaps not at the techno side of things but they pretty much invented trance (on second thoughts, is that a good thing?).
Hehe yes, but i liked the tresor label tho.
Well you say they invented trance, but all those trance stabs and bass lines were coming from disco also.
(if you open your mind to it)

Here are some more classics, some Canadian, some from new york

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Uap7ibHix-8

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=5BP7Gc4CTS4

And the mighty mighty cowley!... too bad he passed away, but he was a major influence on a lott of things:

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=SATItETuofU

And some more for yall:

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=BC_g2rZEJos

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=xmrovpQrFzo

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Re: The first Detroit techno influence actually came from.....

Post by roby » Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:12 pm

lola wrote:Italy!

IMO.

Listen to this great classic when disco was cool, skip to 6 minutes if you like...and hear the first real Detroit Riff.... but actually coming from Italy :)

Isn't that cool? :D


Skip to 6 minutes please... :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efC5h7VyYPI


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that's pretty sick!

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Post by fixed_up » Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:27 pm

The tune Life is a jungle was actually sampled on the Thick Dick track 'welcome to the jungle', so your not the only one who spotted the connection

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=r70t4kyPBUY

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Post by blakbeltjonez » Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:15 am

lola wrote:
And if you go back a 2 years earlier before shavivari that is, you will discover
Visage's frequency 7 :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUrLN2tkoRQ

Must have been an influence also
"frequency 7" is an excellent tune, as is "fade to grey", Visage's other big hit .....but "moscow disco" was the blueprint for "sharivari". "frequency 7" came out in 1981, around the same time as "sharivari", "moscow disco" came out in 1979.

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Post by SimonPHC » Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:43 am

the_planet wrote:No way dude. Thomas Bangalter invented that shit.
I was very, very drunk in a club and Erol Alkan and 2ManyDjs had just played. I kind of drunkenly stumbled into Erol Alkan and started telling him "Daft Punk is to blame for all of this f*%king st!h!" Since then, he says hi every time we meet.

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Post by lola » Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:34 pm

blakbeltjonez wrote:
lola wrote:
And if you go back a 2 years earlier before shavivari that is, you will discover
Visage's frequency 7 :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUrLN2tkoRQ

Must have been an influence also
"frequency 7" is an excellent tune, as is "fade to grey", Visage's other big hit .....but "moscow disco" was the blueprint for "sharivari". "frequency 7" came out in 1981, around the same time as "sharivari", "moscow disco" came out in 1979.
7 Sep 1979 7"
[single version]/Frequency 7 (3.05) (Radar, ADA 48)

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Post by GUY SMILEY » Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:33 pm

thelike5 wrote:Of course it came from Italy. Italo House was a huge influence on Detroit.

By the way; there is A TON of money just waiting to be made by the next band bold enough to dig through the ranks of some of those Italo records and piece together their own sound.

Literally millions...
italo house is a very different beast from Italo Disco, which was an influence on early Chicago House. Listen to the early chicago mix tapes from '85 on deep house pages, and they're dropping dharma plastic doll,and all sorts fo other italo disco classics. but yeah i agree with ya again leedsman :)

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Post by lola » Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:23 pm

levimoniz wrote:Who cares?
obviously you don't, so why post?

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Post by 3dot... » Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:51 am

House = Disco

Techno = Dub

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Post by jon_moore » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:30 pm

Well researched timeline of electronic dance music:

http://www.gridface.com/features/an_ele ... eline.html

1976 seems to be the year that synthesizers started influencing the dance...

Blimey what a bunch of spoddy trainspotters we all are. Bring it on I say.

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Post by aqua_tek » Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:43 pm

sweetjesus wrote:
phil909 wrote:the question is, where have the italians been recently?
benny benassi is the reason everything is sidechained to fuck now..

also check out "the bloody beetroots", from italy n pretty huge in the underground
nothing wrong with sidechaining. imo, its a nice effect. then again, i'm biased cause most of my music is "sidechained to fuck" as well. :P

But benassi isnt such a relevant figure in it. He's just another guy who applies it and got popular through a few tracks/remixes/bootlegs. It's not like he's some sort of pioneer in the matter

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Post by dm_hawk » Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:43 pm

lola wrote:Classic nr 2: influence > jack> chicago house


Italoooooo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDV_dBYp4h0

Still love this record to death after all these years.
HAWT! 8O
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