perspiration

Sebastian · Post by **Sebastian** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:21 pm

After I lay out a song. I seem to spend hours and hours editing.

Does this happen to you?

Self- Producing is rough!

timothyallan · Post by **timothyallan** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:59 pm

Nope, I just record everything in one perfect take and send it off to the label!

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:10 pm

Interesting, sometimes I have to listen through my songs twice and do a tweak or two, but like Tim, things are usually perfect the first time through. You must be doing it wrong.

sherman · Post by **sherman** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:12 am

I normally do a 'clean' run, then spend a little time on the usual. Track volumes, sidechain compression, reverb, but thats it. Mind you, I'd hardly call myself a producer...

pulsoc · Post by **pulsoc** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:11 am

The problem is that it never sounds "right".

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:13 am

Sebastian wrote:After I lay out a song. I seem to spend hours and hours editing.

Does this happen to you?

Self- Producing is rough!

Yeah, if I'm working on using the production for part of the vibe. This is a trick question though, some people here are minimalist techno or indie, where most tracks just fall into sonic place more or less.

sublimelobc · Post by **sublimelobc** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:30 am

I spend a lot of time listening on different devices than starting all over again on the mix, on rare occasions I listen and smile and stop, but it's rare. But yeah, I spend a lot of time at all levels of overdoing it as well....but producing yourself IS a lot of work, I don't think there are a lot of musicians realize how many angles you can look at music until they've tried the do it all yourself approach.

How many others out there are complete lonewolfs? It sucks when you are stuck with yourself and your huge ego all day in the studio, tempers can get out of hand real fast.

(that's the bonus side of producing it yourself, only you can bruise your ego)

Baron von Case · Post by **Baron von Case** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:35 am

Nothing wrong with a little perfectionism. A lot of the best out there aren't just hit with a stroke of genius that comes out perfectly straight away. I'm a huge fan of Peter Gabriel, and he takes years between albums 'cause he's so meticulous.

Whatever works best for you. I take a ton of time editing, but that's because my equipment sucks so badly that it can't even keep my playing in time. College budgets. Ugh.

Pitch Black · Post by **Pitch Black** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:33 am

Sebastian wrote:After I lay out a song. I seem to spend hours and hours editing.

Does this happen to you?

Self- Producing is rough!

Absolutely!

It always seems like I spend 25% of the time to achieve the last 5% of the result. I can really recommend having a collaborator to bounce off. Sure, it means you won't get it your way every time, but it keeps you from trotting out all your old personal chiches as well.

kizzah · Post by **kizzah** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:30 am

I find I don't mind spending time editing if the track turns out well. I hate it when you spend ages editing and micro-editing only to be struck by the revelation "wait a minute...this track sucks!". Consequently I now try and be very sure I like the track before I go near any automation etc.

4ace · Post by **4ace** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:34 pm

kizzah wrote:I find I don't mind spending time editing if the track turns out well. I hate it when you spend ages editing and micro-editing only to be struck by the revelation "wait a minute...this track sucks!". Consequently I now try and be very sure I like the track before I go near any automation etc.

+1

Also what Pitch Black wrote. It's really helpful having another person (whom you trust) to share their opinion. That alone can save you a ton of time and heartache.

I've been accused of being a perfectionist in the past and i'm doing my best to chill out a little at a time. If you pick the music apart eventually you'll have killed any soul or human touch that was there to begin with.

If you can,.. listen to your fav bands rough cuts or studio session before there done. My favs have surprisingly crazy edits and unique things that i never heard before. STILL love those songs!

SO take a deep breathe is what i'm saying

Emissary · Post by **Emissary** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:45 pm

my tracks are usually done before i even record them, but thats because i am totally awesome

forge · Post by **forge** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:57 pm

I've been working on the same song since 1997

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:34 pm

Emissary wrote:my tracks are usually done before i even record them, but thats because i am totally awesome

That's the spirit.

SuperBassMexican · Post by **SuperBassMexican** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:45 pm

As time passes you will get faster at polishing off tracks. My first tracks that I produced on live are on my myspace. They're not perfect but they're not that bad. I find in my newer tracks I recognize what needs to edited sooner than I used to. I've been on hardware for 13 years and switched to live again 6 months ago. My first few tries with live were unsuccessful as I was new to understanding computers and such. I still miss the hardware but am accumilating the funds to get some hardware back. sorry I know this is a bit off topic. But this is the only place I know that some one can relate to me.

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