painful midi recording in arrangement view

[peeddrroo]

i've noticed that recording midi in the arrangement view is a real pain, especially when overdubbing: where you would normally press record and play your stuff, then stop recording, you have to press record (then you're not able to see the midi clip you're recording in), play your stuff, stop recording, consolidate the clip you've recorded, re-draw the notes that might have been cut when stopped recording... really painful. and i didn't mention the fact that you have to unfold the track prior to consolidating... it really cuts the workflow for me...

and another point that is strange to me, is that sometimes the clips i record are quantized, sometimes they aren't, and i can't figure out when it will be quantized.

wouldn't it be possible that Live doesn't add clip boundaries when you start/stop recording? and it would be nice to be able to see what you're recording inside the clip.

i know these are more features wishes, but to me they are a real problem...

[Michel H.]

Hmm,

Ofcourse you have to press record, play your stuff, stop recording and correct what you play? Ain't that always the case?
You can see tiny notes played in the Track Display.

Record Quantization is set in the Edit/Record Quantization menu.
Loop recording only happens when Loop Switch is set.

Consider recording midi in session display.
There you can see the notes played and have the option the overdub a clip and automically loop it.
Or record a new clip with unlimited length.

Greetings

[Chris Cowie]

Hmm,

Ofcourse you have to press record, play your stuff, stop recording and correct what you play? Ain't that always the case?
You can see tiny notes played in the Track Display.

Record Quantization is set in the Edit/Record Quantization menu.
Loop recording only happens when Loop Switch is set.

Consider recording midi in session display.
There you can see the notes played and have the option the overdub a clip and automically loop it.
Or record a new clip with unlimited length.

Greetings

Hi michael,

There is undoubtedly a problem recording midi in the arrangement view. Im not sure if the implementation is intentional or its simply buggy, but notes that dont display where you recorded them seems like a bug to me, and even with quantise on its a total hit or miss affair which leads to more editing and reducing the workflow.

[Chris Cowie]

i've noticed that recording midi in the arrangement view is a real pain, especially when overdubbing: where you would normally press record and play your stuff, then stop recording, you have to press record (then you're not able to see the midi clip you're recording in), play your stuff, stop recording, consolidate the clip you've recorded, re-draw the notes that might have been cut when stopped recording... really painful. and i didn't mention the fact that you have to unfold the track prior to consolidating... it really cuts the workflow for me...

and another point that is strange to me, is that sometimes the clips i record are quantized, sometimes they aren't, and i can't figure out when it will be quantized.

wouldn't it be possible that Live doesn't add clip boundaries when you start/stop recording? and it would be nice to be able to see what you're recording inside the clip.

i know these are more features wishes, but to me they are a real problem...

Exact same problems here. Its not platform specific as the exact same thing happens on both my mac and pc. Ive also had a few friends try recording midi in arrangement view and they to have confirmed there are problems.

Its a little difficult to know if the medthod was programmed intentionally or not. But theres no doubt that some of it is simply bugs (Notes that are not displayed in the correct position for eg) + the total randomness of the quantisation.

[Chris Cowie]

i've noticed that recording midi in the arrangement view is a real pain, especially when overdubbing: where you would normally press record and play your stuff, then stop recording, you have to press record (then you're not able to see the midi clip you're recording in), play your stuff, stop recording, consolidate the clip you've recorded, re-draw the notes that might have been cut when stopped recording... really painful. and i didn't mention the fact that you have to unfold the track prior to consolidating... it really cuts the workflow for me...

and another point that is strange to me, is that sometimes the clips i record are quantized, sometimes they aren't, and i can't figure out when it will be quantized.

wouldn't it be possible that Live doesn't add clip boundaries when you start/stop recording? and it would be nice to be able to see what you're recording inside the clip.

i know these are more features wishes, but to me they are a real problem...

Exact same problems here. Its not platform specific as the exact same thing happens on both my mac and pc. Ive also had a few friends try recording midi in arrangement view and they to have confirmed there are problems.

Its a little difficult to know if the medthod was programmed intentionally or not. But theres no doubt that some of it is simply bugs (Notes that are not displayed in the correct position for eg) + the total randomness of the quantisation.

[muthafunka]

This, a few other lingering inconsistencies and the lack of Abletonian presence suggests to me maybe they're banging away at the code-face as we speak. Either that or necking righteously deserved daquiris by the pool, damn their eyes!

[Chris Cowie]

This, a few other lingering inconsistencies and the lack of Abletonian presence suggests to me maybe they're banging away at the code-face as we speak.

Hope so.

[peeddrroo]

yeah, the fact that the quantization seems quite random, and that recording midi in arrangement means splitting existing clips make recording midi in arrangement view a real nightmare.

please dear abes, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!

[Michel H.]

I don't see any randomness when I record a midi loop from an external sequencer.
I suggest you all try that instead of playing by hand.. or perhaps describe the bugs in more detail.