God I effed up hard here...need help!

Woody Aki · Post by **Woody Aki** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:56 pm

I don't think that there's a solution to this one, but there's nothing to lose, so...

I froze and flattened my tracks on a new track I'm working on as my CPU was under the cosh, but instead of saving it as a new project so that I can always go back to tinker with the VSTi's if the need arose, I saved it on the same name as the original project I intended to leave unfrozen and unflattened.

The $64,000 question: is there any way back?

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:18 pm

next time don't flatten them.

Jekblad · Post by **Jekblad** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:39 am

i think henke's working on a time machine.... that's probably you're only hope.

forge · Post by **forge** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:30 am

sadly no, hopefully one day the'll let you keep your undos after you save, but really I strongly advise working in revisions when you make major changes (song1.02...song 1.03 etc) that is a habit I got in a long time ago for this kind of reason

plus 'save a copy' is a good one too

But regarding flatten - I never use it on the one track, I always create a new audio track next to the previous track and then when it's frozen drag the clips to the new track holding CTRL and that will make copies that are audio files, then you can just deactivate the frozen clips and hide the frozen track out of the way

solovox · Post by **solovox** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:55 am

Great tip Forge...I had no idea of that trick.

I would still like to see this be a standard feature: an undisturbed VSTi track with a new audio track next to it when you choose 'flatten.' I mean, why would ever really want to get rid of a VSTi instrument with all those midi notes after all that work?

Da hand · Post by **Da hand** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:40 am

By the way, is there a difference in CPU usage between a frozen and a flattened track? I figure if Ableton is reading a WAV file in both cases, there shouldn't really be a difference, no?

max2f · Post by **max2f** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:21 am

sorry could someone please explain forges advises a little bit i didnt quite get it by reading it

forge · Post by **forge** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:47 pm

max2f wrote:sorry could someone please explain forges advises a little bit i didnt quite get it by reading it

freeze the track

drag the frozen clips to an audio track and hold CTRL

if you're on a mac it's option i think

then it copies the clip but makes it an audio clip

then you can just deactivate the frozen clips

max2f · Post by **max2f** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:46 pm

oh thanks a lot - i tried it out and got it work

Snurker · Post by **Snurker** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:38 pm

max2f wrote::idea:
oh thanks a lot - i tried it out and got it work

Yup, me too. Good tip.

Da hand · Post by **Da hand** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:16 pm

Da hand wrote:By the way, is there a difference in CPU usage between a frozen and a flattened track? I figure if Ableton is reading a WAV file in both cases, there shouldn't really be a difference, no?

Anyone have any insight on this? Thanks in advance.

parisapartment · Post by **parisapartment** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:25 pm

Doh!!! The only way round that one is if you had your Mac set up with Time Machine - not helpful dude I know but I've lost count how many grown men I've seen cry !!!

ARDJ · Post by **ARDJ** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:09 pm

forge wrote:sadly no, hopefully one day the'll let you keep your undos after you save, but really I strongly advise working in revisions when you make major changes (song1.02...song 1.03 etc) that is a habit I got in a long time ago for this kind of reason

plus 'save a copy' is a good one too

But regarding flatten - I never use it on the one track, I always create a new audio track next to the previous track and then when it's frozen drag the clips to the new track holding CTRL and that will make copies that are audio files, then you can just deactivate the frozen clips and hide the frozen track out of the way

i do the EXACT same thing.

domkane · Post by **domkane** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:54 pm

forge wrote:sadly no, hopefully one day the'll let you keep your undos after you save, but really I strongly advise working in revisions when you make major changes (song1.02...song 1.03 etc) that is a habit I got in a long time ago for this kind of reason

Well said... I learnt the hard way many years ago to always do a "Save As" after every major change.

Mr Mowgli · Post by **Mr Mowgli** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:45 am

domkane wrote:
forge wrote:sadly no, hopefully one day the'll let you keep your undos after you save, but really I strongly advise working in revisions when you make major changes (song1.02...song 1.03 etc) that is a habit I got in a long time ago for this kind of reason
Well said... I learnt the hard way many years ago to always do a "Save As" after every major change.

dedication - gud stuff!