Any female Ableton users out there?

DJ Etain · Post by **DJ Etain** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:11 am

I'm a "chick" and I use Ableton. I do it all myself. Nebulae taught me to use Live about 2 years ago, and I've basically taught myself everything since. It is extremely rewarding. I don't get people who use engineers to write music for them and then they put their name on it as having produced it themselves. It has never made any sense to me, but most female DJ's do it. It's not the way for me, I am too much of a control freak..ha!

Opus · Post by **Opus** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:25 pm

awesome. MORE POWER TO YA!!!!

keep rockin girl..

dom · Post by **dom** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:41 pm

DJ Etain wrote:I'm a "chick" and I use Ableton. I do it all myself. Nebulae taught me to use Live about 2 years ago, and I've basically taught myself everything since. It is extremely rewarding. I don't get people who use engineers to write music for them and then they put their name on it as having produced it themselves. It has never made any sense to me, but most female DJ's do it. It's not the way for me, I am too much of a control freak..ha!
:D

Kudos go out to the bravery of breaking up this macho bunch here!

much appreciated,
Dom

ollyb303 · Post by **ollyb303** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:31 pm

We seem to have forgotten Mrs Akitumi!

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:43 pm

DJ Etain wrote:I'm a "chick" and I use Ableton. I do it all myself. Nebulae taught me to use Live about 2 years ago, and I've basically taught myself everything since. It is extremely rewarding. I don't get people who use engineers to write music for them and then they put their name on it as having produced it themselves. It has never made any sense to me, but most female DJ's do it. It's not the way for me, I am too much of a control freak..ha!

Miss Etain, as a DJ for over 10 years, had fabulous instincts. I just pointed her in the right direction, and she simply took off from there. Some of my most rewarding moments with Live came from watching the light bulbs go on over her head every time she figured out how do realize what she was hearing in her head by using Live.

If any of you get the chance to teach people how to use Live well, then DO IT...it's a great experience for both yourself and the person you help.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:45 pm

ollyb303 wrote:We seem to have forgotten Mrs Akitumi!

perhaps she forgot our little sausagefest!

DJ Etain · Post by **DJ Etain** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:47 pm

You were a good teacher Neb! Let's not forget the panicky e-mails I sent at 3am many times when I couldn't figure out the most simple things. You were always there to assist, and I really appreciate it.

I love this stuff!

E

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:49 pm

^ hey, don't give anyone any funny ideas...

just for the record, I DO NOT ANSWER EMAILS AT 3am (unless they're from Dom, and he's wearing something sexy)

ollyb303 · Post by **ollyb303** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:54 pm

nebulae wrote:If any of you get the chance to teach people how to use Live well, then DO IT...it's a great experience for both yourself and the person you help.

I'm actually running a workshop for a couple of friends who have started using Live and got pretty lost pretty quickly, later this month... Any tips?

UKRuss · Post by **UKRuss** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:58 pm

I'm sorry you've had such a hard time with the ladies.

But why exactly were you seeking the female Live users again?

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:00 pm

ollyb303 wrote:
nebulae wrote:If any of you get the chance to teach people how to use Live well, then DO IT...it's a great experience for both yourself and the person you help.
I'm actually running a workshop for a couple of friends who have started using Live and got pretty lost pretty quickly, later this month... Any tips?

I'd say do the following:
1. Be strict about vocabulary. Specifically, make them memorize what Session, Arrange, Clip means, and what the bottom pane tells you when you view the Properties of each. Always ask them which view they are in, and what the bottom pane is reflecting at any given moment.
2. Then approach it from a workflow perspective...what do you want to do? If it's drums programming, how do you start? If it's bass programming, what do you do? (instantiate a plug, create a midi clip, go into clip properties, draw in notes, or record notes, etc etc.) Taking a workflow angle will help people get stuff done, and discover ways to do it on their own as they build their knowledge.
3. If real basic, go back to fundamentals. What's the diff b/w midi and audio? How do you get a midi clip to generate audio? how do you manipulate and sequence audio clips like midi? Stress the vocabulary, always.
4. DO NOT go complex until they're ready. Stuff like Compression are VERY tough topics that require lots of examples and testing. Don't even mention side-chaining until they understand the difference between ratio, threshold, knee.

That should get you started.

dom · Post by **dom** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:01 pm

nebulae wrote: If any of you get the chance to teach people how to use Live well, then DO IT...it's a great experience for both yourself and the person you help.

Word. Spoken like a true prodigy.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:01 pm

UKRuss wrote:I'm sorry you've had such a hard time with the ladies.

But why exactly were you seeking the female Live users again?

My guess would be that the lotion's runnin' low and the hand is tired.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:04 pm

dom wrote:
nebulae wrote: If any of you get the chance to teach people how to use Live well, then DO IT...it's a great experience for both yourself and the person you help.
Word. Spoken like a true prodigy.

*blush*

so....umm....what are you wearing?

brightonalex · Post by **brightonalex** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:15 pm

nebulae wrote:
ollyb303 wrote:
nebulae wrote: 4. DO NOT go complex until they're ready. Stuff like Compression are VERY tough topics that require lots of examples and testing. Don't even mention side-chaining until they understand the difference between ratio, threshold, knee.

That should get you started.

ratio, threshold and what?