AMT8 midi interface and Intel Macs: Any Help?

palimpsest73 · Post by **palimpsest73** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:57 am

My trusty AMT8 midi interface has now been rendered useless after upgrading to an Intel Macbook Pro. Apparently the drivers necessary for use with Intel Macs can only be found in the Logic Express install discs. Apple support site makes no mention of these latest drivers nor do they post them for download. It certainly seems silly to purchase a $200 piece of software to get an otherwise functional piece of hardware to be recognized by the operating system.

If anyone can help me out with the driver (it should live in the Library/Audio/MIDI interfaces path) please PM me or post other useful suggestions. I can't imagine I'm the only person on this board that has this particular computer/hardware combo and would like to use it with Live and not have to shell out for Logic?

adventurepants_ · Post by **adventurepants_** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:09 am

palimpsest73 wrote:My trusty AMT8 midi interface has now been rendered useless after upgrading to an Intel Macbook Pro. Apparently the drivers necessary for use with Intel Macs can only be found in the Logic Express install discs. Apple support site makes no mention of these latest drivers nor do they post them for download. It certainly seems silly to purchase a $200 piece of software to get an otherwise functional piece of hardware to be recognized by the operating system.

If anyone can help me out with the driver (it should live in the Library/Audio/MIDI interfaces path) please PM me or post other useful suggestions. I can't imagine I'm the only person on this board that has this particular computer/hardware combo and would like to use it with Live and not have to shell out for Logic?

its not silly to charge for it, when apple probably had to spend development money updating the drivers. Youre essentially asking someone to give you licenced software for free, if the driver isnt open source.

i think its unfair, but thats capitalism!

palimpsest73 · Post by **palimpsest73** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:13 am

Apple bought Emagic, the manufacturer of AMT8. I don't think I'm wrong to expect some small measure of support on their part no matter what software host I happen to choose. Did they really expect ALL AMT8 users to switch over to Logic and ditch whatever software they happen to prefer?

Seems slightly draconian considering it hasn't been out of the question for hardware/software makers post updates for obsolete/unsupported products. And after all, it's not as if I'm fishing around for a serial number or unlock code for software. This is a driver to make a piece of hardware, that I paid money for, run--not a piece of intellectual property.

madlab · Post by **madlab** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:06 am

adventurepants_ wrote:
its not silly to charge for it, when apple probably had to spend development money updating the drivers. Youre essentially asking someone to give you licenced software for free, if the driver isnt open source.

i think its unfair, but thats capitalism!

Apple has been acting like a**holes for years now on that front (although I'm a big fan : 3 macs at home). A good example is the proprietary external DVD writer for mac book air, you can't even use it with a macbook as my girlfriend intended to do because her macbook's writer died after 14 months.
And no, I wouldn't want to pay for a driver for a hardware product I bought, even if I know development is hard work. Last time I sold a synth through my favorite retailer, I bought an electric bass with the money instead of a software because I'm fed up to buy things that I cannot use anymore two years later...

madlab · Post by **madlab** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:07 am

And by the way, I'm interested if you find the drivers for amt4 for my mac book pro !

photonal · Post by **photonal** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:13 am

palimpsest73 wrote:Apple bought Emagic, the manufacturer of AMT8. I don't think I'm wrong to expect some small measure of support on their part no matter what software host I happen to choose. Did they really expect ALL AMT8 users to switch over to Logic and ditch whatever software they happen to prefer?

Seems slightly draconian considering it hasn't been out of the question for hardware/software makers post updates for obsolete/unsupported products. And after all, it's not as if I'm fishing around for a serial number or unlock code for software. This is a driver to make a piece of hardware, that I paid money for, run--not a piece of intellectual property.

totally agree with you - the AMT8 is proprietary hardware made by emagic which Apple took over - Apple should show good-faith and continue to support those original customers without having to buy additional software in order to obtain the drivers.

teknobryan · Post by **teknobryan** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:44 pm

http://www.macmusic.org/software/view.p ... n/id/1711/

palimpsest73 · Post by **palimpsest73** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:36 pm

teknobryan wrote:http://www.macmusic.org/software/view.p ... n/id/1711/

That one is the last PPC driver (version 1.5), the one that won't work with the Intel Macs. The one I need is 1.9 (I believe). Thanks anyway.

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:44 pm

He? did you tried it? the AMT8 / UNITOR drivers are still part of OSX...
you should not need to install anything... Intel or not.

i used an AMT8 still until about 1 year ago... had it permanently from a friend of mine, i just plugged it into the MBP 10.4.xx and went to midi / audio setup to patch... done.

p.s. otherwise google... emagic, they still have rerouted a support on a simple website to apple... ahhh here it is: http://www.apple.com/support/emagic/ they changed it again... but you can still email "emagic" for support!

palimpsest73 · Post by **palimpsest73** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:07 pm

SubFunk wrote:He? did you tried it? the AMT8 / UNITOR drivers are still part of OSX...
you should not need to install anything... Intel or not.

i used an AMT8 still until about 1 year ago... had it permanently from a friend of mine, i just plugged it into the MBP 10.4.xx and went to midi / audio setup to patch... done.

p.s. otherwise google... emagic, they still have rerouted a support on a simple website to apple... ahhh here it is: http://www.apple.com/support/emagic/ they changed it again... but you can still email "emagic" for support!

I've already tried the driver at the emagic/apple support site and that hasn't been working for me (no hardware recognized in Audio/Midi setup or the Unitor software). This may be an issue with Leopard, as you say it worked perfectly with 10.4.xx (Tiger) and I also had no issues with using it on Tiger and Powerbook G4.

Anyways, I'll try hitting up Emagic support and see what they say. Otherwise, I'm heading to the nearest Guitar Center with USB flash drive in hand (just try and stop me).

nbinder · Post by **nbinder** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:55 pm

SubFunk wrote:He? did you tried it? the AMT8 / UNITOR drivers are still part of OSX...
you should not need to install anything... Intel or not.

Glad to hear that... never used my AMT8 with OSX and maybe will be again in the future.

palimpsest73: Good luck, and let us know if you have any news.... thanks!

Yhtomit · Post by **Yhtomit** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:32 pm

you don't need to install logic or anything else.. Just plug n play. The Unitor drivers are a part of OSX. I use Leopard on Intel Mac. No problems here.

Although, in th beginning I uninstLLED the Unitor driver and then the driver indeed was missing and the only possible way to get it working again was to reinstall Logic (because Logic has the unitor driver as well)

Did you uninstall the Unitor driver too?

adventurepants_ · Post by **adventurepants_** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:46 pm

madlab wrote:
adventurepants_ wrote:
its not silly to charge for it, when apple probably had to spend development money updating the drivers. Youre essentially asking someone to give you licenced software for free, if the driver isnt open source.

i think its unfair, but thats capitalism!
Apple has been acting like a**holes for years now on that front (although I'm a big fan : 3 macs at home). A good example is the proprietary external DVD writer for mac book air, you can't even use it with a macbook as my girlfriend intended to do because her macbook's writer died after 14 months.

unfortunately thats what can happen with a closed platform like Mac. they can and do change any connector formats and drivers at their own whim, they dont have to consider compatibility with the wider market. All that stability comes at the expense of less flexibility and options.

hold on, you bought a Macbook Air?

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:35 am

adventurepants_ wrote: hold on, you bought a Macbook Air?

What the fuck does it matter what he bought? Jesus, don't be such a reverse snob? Sometimes the comments about Macs remind me of rednecks that hate on anybody who dresses up because the clothes they buy from the department store are 'practical' and work fine etc

FYI I buy clothes from used clothing stores, and used Macbook Pros , but that's me.

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:38 am

Your sig makes me laugh every time I see it though. I'm realy tempted to try it, block 99% of the users and see if I can make any sense of what's left!

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