A Little pre-Christmas story....

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
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Post by SubFunk » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:00 pm

thelike5 wrote:Why would someone buy the MP3 when they can just type in
(Artist Name _blog) and find the site that houses the link to the actual entire record? More and more people are going to start doing this; it's not going to go away.

Those of us into producing or DJ'ing with Ableton Live, who are too pure to illegally download something, would probably rather own the vinyl then buy an MP3 record. I know I would.
Those of us into producing or DJ'ing with Ableton Live, who are too pure to illegally download something, would probably rather own the vinyl then buy an MP3 record. I know I would.
me not, i am happy that i don't have to buy and keep vinyls anymore... thanks to technology. i was a hardcore vinyl freak not even touched CDs ever, until i discovered Traktor 3 triggered via a midi controller WITHOUT CONTROL TIMECODE RECORDS!!! that was the best thing since my first time i DJ-ed that happened to me. but that is off topic, though.

and DJs who play often or professionel ususally buy digitally and pay for it, because they respect and want that others pay for there tracks as well, ask WAS how much there whatpeopleplay.com added to there sells...

unless of course you speak about those assholes http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?t=101223
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Post by Tone Deft » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:01 pm

Amazon, the world’s largest online retailer, is under attack by online pirates. An add-on for the Firefox browser called ‘Pirates of the Amazon’ makes it possible to shop at the Amazon store but leave without paying a dime. Instead, on Amazon product pages the add-on integrates links to ‘free’ copies on The Pirate Bay.
http://torrentfreak.com/firefox-pirates ... on-081203/


I'm still amazed that even on this forum pirating tunes is considered acceptable. it'll come down to who has bigger lawyers, music makers with day jobs saving up for new gear or thieves making money with little effort. or a big third party corporation will step in and get the government to give them control.

/off to the record shop to buy used CDs that only profit the store. :?
(I feel old still calling it a record shop, but goddamnit, that's what it is...)
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Post by thelike5 » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:09 pm

Would be something if the entire site like Rapidshare was "coated" by the Government so that once everything was downloaded from that site, a noise (would need to be the same tone for everything) would go off every 30 seconds kinda like when you demo a software program. That tone would be the most recognizable sound ever heard; even more than the old school telephone ringing.

You couldn't play it.
Couldn't DJ it
Couldn't re-sell it

Just "preview" it, like you are supposed to be doing anyway.

The US government could do this rather easily, one would think.

It's not like music has become less popular... it's just simply too easy to steal.

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Post by Tone Deft » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:13 pm

then you go to a site that doesn't 'beep'. then the government finds that site and 'beeps' it, ultimately hackers beat the government within days or months, they always will.
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Post by SubFunk » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:13 pm

t's not like music has become less popular... it's just simply too easy to steal.
totally agree.
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Post by thelike5 » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:20 pm

Tone Deft wrote:then you go to a site that doesn't 'beep'. then the government finds that site and 'beeps' it, ultimately hackers beat the government within days or months, they always will.
Hefty fines will speak loader then beeps

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Post by Macrostructure » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:22 pm

SubFunk wrote:music needs to be a business, otherwise no one can afford the creation.
hmm....not sure about this one. care to elaborate?

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Post by thelike5 » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:22 pm

If anyone wants a link to a rather fab record store at the end of my street...

www.bentcrayon.com
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Post by thelike5 » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:32 pm

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Post by Tone Deft » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:33 pm

thelike5 wrote:
Tone Deft wrote:then you go to a site that doesn't 'beep'. then the government finds that site and 'beeps' it, ultimately hackers beat the government within days or months, they always will.
Hefty fines will speak loader then beeps
really? so you've been fined for all your illegal mp3s? do you know anyone that has? you don't know anyone who's ever put an mp3 online for someone else to download?
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Post by SubFunk » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:41 pm

Macrostructure wrote:
SubFunk wrote:music needs to be a business, otherwise no one can afford the creation.
hmm....not sure about this one. care to elaborate?
you need money for an instrument.... and the whole chain, recording, distro, etc.

therefore i think it needs to be business orientated, doesn't mean to be greedy, but in order to get thinks going you need money, there is nothing wrong with making money from music, i thing oposite. and in an ideal music is making money to be able to create more music.

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Post by mikemc » Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:23 pm

Some very obvious observations plus some less obvious that someone got paid to make about the music business. Now, that's easy money... :)


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Post by Moody » Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:42 pm

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Post by Macrostructure » Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:53 pm

SubFunk wrote:
Macrostructure wrote:
SubFunk wrote:music needs to be a business, otherwise no one can afford the creation.
hmm....not sure about this one. care to elaborate?
you need money for an instrument.... and the whole chain, recording, distro, etc.

therefore i think it needs to be business orientated
well...how about making a living doing something else and doing music not-for-profit in the spare time using the money you make working for the man as it were

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