Finally, a documentary about Techno that gets it right

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Post by chunc » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:05 am

Superchibisan wrote:
chunc wrote:Yea this is hardly the history of techno.

Sounds like German DJs and producers that took the flame from detroit and early UK and are taking their passion, but not acknowledging the history and the roots.

Looks like a quality movie, but it is extremely biased.
biased towards what?
Biased towards making german post 2001 DJ's look awesome, as opposed to acknowledging the lessons they learned from UK and US (read: Detroit) musicians.

They're being very selfish in depicting this movie as their own story. That's fine, but don't make it, or interpret it, to be the story of techno. It's a story of THEIR techno, not techno itself.
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Post by ekwipt » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:22 am

Watched hi tek soul yesterday thought it was great

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Post by tw1nstates » Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:30 am

I preferred Christian Slater in Gleaming the Cube to Pump up the Volume. . .
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Post by [nis] » Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:35 pm

JJarvis wrote: However, it featured very little in actual music. Disappointing because without a previous intro to Detroit Techno, there was very little to go on besides the interviews.
True, but on the other hand it gives you a nice insight about the city, how it formed the people and consequentially the music. High Tech Soul tells an interesting story, which is what most others fail at.

All in all I guess it's quite complicated to do a proper documentary about techno music, because the music itself, the creators and the clubbers have so diverse facets, backgrounds and intentions. And the other problem is that those documentaries are usually shot by outsiders. People who once had a funny night in a techno club, wake up and think they need to tell all others on telly. See, the Berlin documentaries I posted are all not very good. The first one about Tresor is in fact a complete nightmare. It looks like Tresor was a silly Trance club and not the cradle of Berlin's techno movement. Well, there were some trance parties at Tresor indeed, but most of the time it was rather proper techno, cooked up in a magical venue which you will never find again in this town (or anywhere in the world). This is surely not the picture you get here. The other one ("Techno City") was shot in 1993 and tries to draw a picture about those "crazy techno-people", a sub-culture which has always been smiled at - at least until they noticed that Berlin can earn some money and gain some prestige with them. "We call it Techno" is perhaps the only one which gets it right, although there are IMO still a lot of important things missing. Nevertheless it's fun to look at those videos as they bring back some lovely memories. Sheesh! Berlin has been so different at that time! So was the music and the people. Well, enough now....
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Post by roach808 » Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:11 pm

What if i really wanted to see a movie about techno that got everything dead wrong? Where would I find that film? You know a film that explores the link between electro-house and masked Mexican wrestlers, and isn't afraid to blow the lid off the techno taboo that David Bowie single handled created all the basis of "techno" by himself in the late 60s with just a floor tom, a toothpick, and a banjo for for that classic reso-bass sound found in all of his early tunes.

thats a movie i really want to see, in the mean time I guess i'll check out some of these other links ppl have posted.

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Post by Superchibisan » Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:24 pm

chunc wrote:
Superchibisan wrote:
chunc wrote:Yea this is hardly the history of techno.

Sounds like German DJs and producers that took the flame from detroit and early UK and are taking their passion, but not acknowledging the history and the roots.

Looks like a quality movie, but it is extremely biased.
biased towards what?
Biased towards making german post 2001 DJ's look awesome, as opposed to acknowledging the lessons they learned from UK and US (read: Detroit) musicians.

They're being very selfish in depicting this movie as their own story. That's fine, but don't make it, or interpret it, to be the story of techno. It's a story of THEIR techno, not techno itself.
why would you make a movie about people who are not involved in their scene? this movie seems to be about the german techno movement. it doesn't look like a "history of techno movie" it looks like a movie about the lives of these people who helped catapult german techno into the stars. i guess thats biased but it doesn't look to me like this is a movie about a debate or some sort of controversial subject. its merely a story, and a look into the lives of these people...

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Post by ze2be » Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:27 pm

zsazsa wrote:eeeeh,

Isn't that Robert Henke in the film around 0:44
Hehehe, Its our hero! :D ;)

Your actualy one of the few original minimal techno artists that I still like to listen to.
Some UR stuf are still ok, and some robert hood.. Its the roberts ;)

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Post by serge_a_storms » Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:00 pm

Anyone know what the tune at the end is?

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Post by morerecords » Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:37 pm

I like these "universal techno" docs from 1996. There are links to the other parts accompanied here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSX_r0u3uzE

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Post by ze2be » Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:53 pm

deleted.. stoned ..muhaha

nice to see all this old artists again! Been some years for me.. 8)

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Post by [nis] » Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:41 pm

morerecords wrote:I like these "universal techno" docs from 1996. There are links to the other parts accompanied here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSX_r0u3uzE
Yeah, that's a good one. Check the dailymotion links I posted earlier, that's the complete documentary in 3 parts. The stuff that has been put on youtube lacks the first 15 minutes. Btw, the guy who leans at the wall (right behind Blake Baxters shoulder) around 12:30 is me ;)
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Post by morerecords » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:25 am

[nis] wrote:
morerecords wrote:I like these "universal techno" docs from 1996. There are links to the other parts accompanied here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSX_r0u3uzE
Yeah, that's a good one. Check the dailymotion links I posted earlier, that's the complete documentary in 3 parts. The stuff that has been put on youtube lacks the first 15 minutes. Btw, the guy who leans at the wall (right behind Blake Baxters shoulder) around 12:30 is me ;)

-Cool another 15 minutes! very good, will check out now

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Post by NativeBreaks » Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:54 am

good watch..
but...

it spends a lot of time on a few guys, then skips over a WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER INFLUENTIAL ARTISTS. Example, they said, that all breakbeats are is other loops layered into house tracks.
Now that's the problem we have today between house music and breakbeats and it's origins.
Breakbeats is a totally separate thing. Later on in the LATE 90's, they fused together a bit and became all the BS sub house genre's we have today.

Personally, I HATE QUARTER BEATS. They give me headaches after about 64 bars. I think it caught on so well because it was easy for DJ's to mix because they have no music theory background, and two, there was part of the Disco that never died out. Breakbeats are a completely different animal, and have completely different roots and origins. Breakbeats were originated in the southeast of US in the late 80 to early 90s, when it WAS REAL CLUB MUSIC. This style of production opened up new door ways for extreme build ups and breakdowns. It would not be what it is today if it weren't for artists like 2 live Crew, Dynamix, Magic Mike, among a few others who were influenced by 80's hiphop from NY and Miami.

Perfect example:
Go to a club with house music. All gays, and people who are too white to dance.
Go to a club with breakbeats or jungle/DnB, and you'll see the true vibe that made the scene and gave it momentum to carry on to what it is today.
I can pull up tracks from the late 80's and 90's all day long.
BREAKBEATS ARE GONNA TAKE OVER SOON. GOODBYE DISCO!!!!

I've been contemplating making a "BreakBeat" Documentary with all of these artists from the 80's and 90's to set the record straight.
Some one needs to do it for real.

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Post by djgroovy » Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:53 am

Well, i just finished watching Pump up the volume and it was a nice watch, i enjoyed it and there were some cool tracks in there. Of course there will always be this or that missing, but what is there is cool.
Now i'm going to check out some of those Berlin videos.

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Post by ChiDJ » Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:25 pm

NativeBreaks wrote: Personally, I HATE QUARTER BEATS. They give me headaches after about
Go to a club with house music. All gays, and people who are too white to dance.
Go to a club with breakbeats or jungle/DnB, and you'll see the true vibe that made the scene and gave it momentum to carry on to what it is today.
I can pull up tracks from the late 80's and 90's all day long.
BREAKBEATS ARE GONNA TAKE OVER SOON. GOODBYE DISCO!!!!
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