Why are there no 'MIDI' LFOs in Live ?!?
Surely there is 
,free MIDI LFOs can be added in Live,even Live5 
just drop an Usine VST free plug with LFOs,randoms,lines,envelopes,XY recordable pads... on an Ableton MIDI track and assign the output to a midiyoke port.then use it as a MIDIcc...
i do that on stage with the smart simplers i love.
i assign LFOs an randoms to sample start,that rocks!
what about Max/Msp in Ableton?
,free MIDI LFOs can be added in Live,even Live5 just drop an Usine VST free plug with LFOs,randoms,lines,envelopes,XY recordable pads... on an Ableton MIDI track and assign the output to a midiyoke port.then use it as a MIDIcc...
i do that on stage with the smart simplers i love.
i assign LFOs an randoms to sample start,that rocks!
what about Max/Msp in Ableton?
Ok so actually this is already possible if you don't mind taking a pain in the ass round about rout.Soma wrote:Hey Robert,
you said Ableton can't :Why can't they just allow us to record the existing relative envelopes using the mouse or a controller?! For me the missing ingredient isn't if it is absolute, relative... whatever. The missing ingredient is that there is no life, no real playing, no humanist element to the envelope. Allow users to use their ears and instruments to create envelopes and you add so much more meaning and life to the music!-automation of parameters within a clip, and not just modulation.
( -> automation recording not just of MIDI CCs but all parameters from within a clip )
1) Record your clip to the arrangement
2) Record the automation of your parameter to the arrangement
3) Select the envelope
4) Copy envelope
5) go back to session view
6) Open envelope in clip for the parameter you just recorded
7) Unlink
8) paste
(repeat for each parameter)
9) Go back to arrangement
10) select your work
11) delete
No you have a clip that has automation you recorded. It is relative :) IF you want it to act absolute, just leave your parameter at the max.
Now why not just reduce the steps to this:
1) Click button to record to envelope in session view
2) Record automation
(loop for each parameter)
I do not care if it is a relative envelope (in fact I prefer relative).
Somas description of a workaround for the automation in session problem would be the perfect interim solution til the relevant structures of Live are going to be changed! (which will take quite a while as it seems). I tried working that way, but its too timeconsuming if you are using much automation.
So Abes please give us this "scripted" for- the- moment-solution that should be kind of easy to implement and shouldn't cause any problems cause it leaves every core intact!!!! This would be much better than its now!
So Abes please give us this "scripted" for- the- moment-solution that should be kind of easy to implement and shouldn't cause any problems cause it leaves every core intact!!!! This would be much better than its now!
Yes, please! Record modulation in session.
Just switch it on.
If we can draw modulation envelopes, there is no reason that we can't record them!
Just switch it on.
If we can draw modulation envelopes, there is no reason that we can't record them!
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koneko wrote:Kodama wrote:
Just switch it on.
It already works for non Ableton devices, and it works if you trick Ableton by using a routing utility. All they have to do is "allow" modulation to record from learned CC#'s on native devices.
Does that answer your elegantly stated argument ?
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have you actually read the original post by RH? it just seemed to me that the problem lays deep in the architecture of the software. so nobody crippled it, or didnt "allow" it. it's like this with a reason.Kodama wrote:koneko wrote:Kodama wrote:
Just switch it on.
It already works for non Ableton devices, and it works if you trick Ableton by using a routing utility. All they have to do is "allow" modulation to record from learned CC#'s on native devices.
Does that answer your elegantly stated argument ?
i hear your pain though.
Re: Steim "junxion"
JunXion is very interesting. it's actually something i was long ago looking for.
i play with the demo and try to make live response to it (webcam > junxion > live) and it sort of jams live midi ports. not sure whats wrong. Live indicates midi trafic from JunXion but nothing reaches the track.
didnt mean to hijack the thread, just wonder if it worked for you, sofalofa
In my experience, there are always inherent usage/performance/stability issues with non-native solutions...
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