Interesting Burial interview

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:16 pm

Grifter wrote:Why do so many of you Slam this guy?

EVERYBODY gets slammed here.

Steve Irwin died and the cunts started arguing about how stupid he was for playing with animals. I don't mean if it was stupid or not, it was HOW stupid it was. mention Pete Townsend and kiddie pron comes up on page 1. the only thing we all do agree on is that www.abletonlivedj.com is a forum for bed wetting nonces who think that 4 measure quantize is the best thing ever.

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:18 pm

Grifter wrote:
Now you cunts question every production technique he use's, did you ever think for one second that he is into the VIBE? and heavily propelled by cunts like you guys scribing the shit like you post here?

CUNTS

excuuuse me,
as a cunt I find these remarks anti-cuntist.

thirdly, I feel obliged to attempt to promote my work through pretending something and then letting complete strangers get all heated about it.

secondly, that's all.

Grifter · Post by **Grifter** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:56 pm

What suprises me more than anything else that by listening to Burial you can blatantly tell its not made through an SSL etc.

Any of you guys heard Four-tets new EP? notice the change in sound quality? he sold more records than you guys and has a faithfull following around the world for playing live; and forgive if I insult, he used an SBlive. So whilst you guys are making the bread and butter hoping for more attention slamming someone for being themselves and doing quite well thank you very much ( I noticed the slammers were people that would love that attention of being one the No:1 albums in the Hip scene for 2007)

buckman · Post by **buckman** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:44 pm

I cant see how this was done on just Soundforge?

I can understand how he does it by the cute/paste and layering etc but how does he do (and get) the piano/basses etc all in the same key? as well as the pads and wooshes of background sounds??

Like this:

http://www.myspace.com/burialuk

this would take weeks of pitching wouldnt it??

The Phat Conductor · Post by **The Phat Conductor** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:45 pm

buckman wrote: this would take weeks of pitching wouldnt it??

melodyne.

the formant shift is too characteristic to hide.

morerecords · Post by **morerecords** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:53 pm

morerecords wrote:he's not saying he didn't use other programs to genereate/make sounds. His 'claim to fame' if you wanna call it that is that he arranges/sequences and the final output comes from sound forge.

forge · Post by **forge** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:18 am

I wouldnt even necessarily assume he makes all his own sounds any way

he probably has a big sample library as well

that;s not a criticism, he obviously still makes it into his own sound, but getting pianos and basses in the same key might not be hard if they are coming from the same sample library

but yeah what morecords said

anyway, I havent used SF for years, but isnt there some pitch stuff in it?

forge · Post by **forge** » Sat May 10, 2008 4:20 pm

morerecords wrote:"B: So I thought to myself fuckit I’m going to stick to this shitty little computer program, Soundforge. I don’t know any other programs. Once I change something, I can never un-change it. I can only see the waves. So I know when I’m happy with my drums because they look like a nice fishbone. When they look just skeletal as fuck in front of me, and so I know they’ll sound good."

I really like this story - something very zen about it

I just picture this blissed out dude who uses a shitty old computer and someone gave him a crack of sound forge and once he figured out how to mix all his sample CDs together and make tunes out of it he just said "cool that'll do," and contentedly made tunes with it ever since.

Just ripping up the samples he's collected over the years mashing it up in sound forge then tripping out on the shapes of the waveforms.

it's a nice image

Nick the Zombie · Post by **Nick the Zombie** » Sat May 10, 2008 5:06 pm

forge wrote:
morerecords wrote:"B: So I thought to myself fuckit I’m going to stick to this shitty little computer program, Soundforge. I don’t know any other programs. Once I change something, I can never un-change it. I can only see the waves. So I know when I’m happy with my drums because they look like a nice fishbone. When they look just skeletal as fuck in front of me, and so I know they’ll sound good."
I really like this story - something very zen about it

I just picture this blissed out dude who uses a shitty old computer and someone gave him a crack of sound forge and once he figured out how to mix all his sample CDs together and make tunes out of it he just said "cool that'll do," and contentedly made tunes with it ever since.

Just ripping up the samples he's collected over the years mashing it up in sound forge then tripping out on the shapes of the waveforms.

it's a nice image

+ 1

I really enjoy reading about electronic composers that look at things in such an abstract and fun way. Also, using tools like Soundforge for considerably more than what they were originally created for is pretty cool. I really can't hate on the guy.

That being said, I don't really like his second album. Too much Cher-style vocoding on it

The first album is a really great listen, though.

- Nick

krank · Post by **krank** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:52 am

morerecords wrote:Wow! Carl Finlow-I have your records, I love your music. Very good shit!

Checked out Tipper- not my cup of tea...
I used to work with Mars Volta Druumer/songwriter, he was kind of a prick, so I have a bias, I can't listend them without hearing a prick

I've only seen them on Letterman, but that sucked big time.

Edit - ooops, old thread bump.

Emissary · Post by **Emissary** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:41 pm

i dont see why he couldnt do his stuff on soundforge. If you listen closely its quite simple stuff (still great though). its a pretty recurring drum loop, an occasional big fat reverby wet bass, some chopped up vocals played at different speeds and then some crackles and sfx thrown into the mix. the guy has an ear for great sounds rather than any mad skilllzzzz.

duluxdog · Post by **duluxdog** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:40 pm

I believe. The first album's mega. Not so keen on the second because my bro overplays it. I agree withe the above poster that wrote that his method just sounds very fun, playful and quite abstract - making his 'fish-bone shaped' drum loops. Great stuff.

hacktheplanet · Post by **hacktheplanet** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:33 pm

I built my first 4/4 kick/snare/hat loop in Soundforge.

krank · Post by **krank** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:12 pm

duluxdog wrote:I believe. The first album's mega. Not so keen on the second because my bro overplays it. I agree withe the above poster that wrote that his method just sounds very fun, playful and quite abstract - making his 'fish-bone shaped' drum loops. Great stuff.

Can anyone please explain to us SF non-users how that works? You can't listen back while in the program, only see the wave form - or what?

condra · Post by **condra** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:16 pm

I found the interview interesting until this point:

M: Your album is full of reverb, that gives it the sense it’s made in a space, like it’s echoing off London walls and coming over the pirate ether. Was that deliberate?

B: If I’m making a tune sitting in my room with a cup of tea, I’m not making a tune about sitting in my room with a cup of tea, it’s like I’m out there somewhere. That’s how I started listening to jungle, going through the lightless neighbourhoods, the districts.

"Echoing off the London walls and coming over the pirate ether"????
Wank off.