the cruelest christmas gift ever

Chang · Post by **Chang** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:08 am

What a joke. Seriously what a dang joke. My parents and I escape china in the 80's with dead people everywhere and you cry for some kid that not get Xbox and get tricked?

Shut up and wake up.

WOW

i cannot believe this.

Mr. Obvious · Post by **Mr. Obvious** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:14 am

This thread has become too literal and unHoliday like. My fault it seems. Sorry.

aizo · Post by **aizo** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:52 pm

Machinesworking: you're looking too deep into it. if a kid wants to stay up late when their parents say go to bed then it's not exactly failed parenting. My parents did a great job but they weren't fucking perfect. who the fuck is? there is not much to get with my post other than spoiled kids fuck up in the real world or fuck up the real world. that's it. I know for a fact that my parent's job is way better than the lot that post in 4chan because for one I don't give a shit what color you are, I don't wanna rape women or think it's funny to joke about it, or have sex with kids or think that shit is funny to joke about that either. i could go on and on but there is no need.

Machinate: this video is hardly abuse, it might be cruel but the fucking real world is crueler. and if you ask me I'd prefer to have neither the prisoners nor the lil shits in 4chan. "the lesser of two evils" is bullshit. how about no evil.

knotkranky · Post by **knotkranky** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:44 pm

Chang wrote:What a joke. Seriously what a dang joke. My parents and I escape china in the 80's with dead people everywhere and you cry for some kid that not get Xbox and get tricked?

Shut up and wake up.

WOW

i cannot believe this.

That's dreadful and we're glad you and your folks made it out, but how is anybody suppose to know that?
It's just banter bro and not a real debate on the definition of "cruel", nor is it meant to slight your personal experience.

Kodama · Post by **Kodama** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:53 pm

Chang wrote:... you cry for some kid that not get Xbox and get tricked?

Not only that, he got it any way.

There's no way to know the history behind this. It really just depends on context.

You never know, maybe his parents will support him through college and help him in many ways throughout life (while mine just told me to get the fuck out).

Either way, it's breeding that's the real tragedy here.

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:10 pm

Chang wrote:What a joke. Seriously what a dang joke. My parents and I escape china in the 80's with dead people everywhere and you cry for some kid that not get Xbox and get tricked?

Shut up and wake up.

WOW

i cannot believe this.

What the fuck does that have to do with the topic of bad parents???

All 'pain' is NOT the same, period. Tyrants try to kill you? yeah it's bad. Your parents try to kill you, MUCH worse! Get it now??

One breeds a fighter for justice in this world, the other breeds a psychopath. I'll leave it up to you to figure out which is which.

q.musgrove · Post by **q.musgrove** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:28 pm

I think I've seen evidence that peers affect children more than parenting at least as far as it applies to the social aspects of the child's personality. If you were to ask me, my opinion is that parents are given to much credit as to who they create "ego" wise. I peeked when I was a child and then I opened a box of rocks. I cried. I think it was fucked up. I also am a rational compassionate person that takes care of disabled people when I am not making music. Everyone has been arguing about the parents and speculating on their worth here. That seems pointless. I found the video entertaining though. I love to witness human suffering as much as anything else. I just don't like to create it.

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:30 pm

aizo wrote:Machinesworking: you're looking too deep into it. if a kid wants to stay up late when their parents say go to bed then it's not exactly failed parenting. My parents did a great job but they weren't fucking perfect. who the fuck is? there is not much to get with my post other than spoiled kids fuck up in the real world or fuck up the real world. that's it. I know for a fact that my parent's job is way better than the lot that post in 4chan because for one I don't give a shit what color you are, I don't wanna rape women or think it's funny to joke about it, or have sex with kids or think that shit is funny to joke about that either. i could go on and on but there is no need.

Personally I've always found all humor funny, no boundaries. Humor always has a victim, and if anything is off limits, then humor is chained. I also forgive myself and my parents for indiscretions of youth etc. I got over years ago thinking that spoiled kids were somehow led down the path of their own ethical sewage by any overt coddling. The truth of the matter is most, if not all spoiled kids turn out badly because their parents do not, or will not make time for them. Neglect, and over compensation by way of material goods is how this cycle is created. To me anyway, this is much more psychically damaging than overt attention. The kid learns that love is expressed through material possessions, it's bad parenting on so many levels it's not even funny.

Think about it, any kid under 18 on 4chan is to a degree a victim of neglect, otherwise the parents would be ay least a little aware of where their child was doing on the interwebs?

aizo wrote:seriously.

This is fucking nothing. The world needs to stop trying to make everything safe for children and start making kids ready to be adults. I thought it was a fantastic lesson. Mother fucking parents don't teach their kids shit. I hope this boy learned some patience. Fucking coddling gets kids no where. Kids don't know shit and if you never fucking discipline them, they are gonna be fucking useless in the REAL world.

Machinate: this video is hardly abuse, it might be cruel but the fucking real world is crueler. and if you ask me I'd prefer to have neither the prisoners nor the lil shits in 4chan. "the lesser of two evils" is bullshit. how about no evil.

I dunno man, your compassion is all out of whack IMO.