Takeover Mode - can you help clarify?

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craftycurate
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Takeover Mode - can you help clarify?

Post by craftycurate » Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:14 pm

I can't get the "Value Scaling" or "Pickup" Takeover mode to work with my Korg NanoKontrol (KNK). OK, here's the setup:

KNK takeover mode set to "Pickup"

KNK Scene 1 knobs mapped to Instrument Rack no.1 macro knobs
KNK Scene 2 knobs mapped to Instrument Rack no.2 macro knobs

1) Let's say I turn all the Scene 1 knobs to 64 (i.e. midrange)
2) Flip to KNK Scene 2, and turn all the knobs up to 127
3) Return to Scene 1 - now all the knobs are physically at the value = 127 position, though the macro knobs they're mapped to are at value 64 (from step 1).

4) When I turn the KNK knob now, the Instrument Rack macro knobs immediately jump up to around 127, instead of waiting for the CC value to pass 64, which is how I thought Pickup takeover mode worked.

However, if I move the macro knob manually, Pickup mode seems to work.

All mappings are in Absolute mode.

The multiple scenes on the KNK is a great bonus but it does mean lots of jerky parameter jumps, which isn't great in a live situation.

Any help appreciated!

Cheers
Richard
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Post by 8O » Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:59 pm

Sounds like a similar problem to what we've seen on the UC-33e + Live for years now... Happens when changing presets on the controller. Lemme see if I can dig out the old thread...
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Post by 8O » Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:02 pm

Here you go: http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?t=88522 - different controller, same Live bug?
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Post by craftycurate » Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:21 pm

8O wrote:Sounds like a similar problem to what we've seen on the UC-33e + Live for years now... Happens when changing presets on the controller. Lemme see if I can dig out the old thread...
Thanks ... yes the problem occurs when switching controller presets via the "Scene" button, which loads up a different set of MIDI channel\CC number assignments for each control.
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Post by craftycurate » Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:39 pm

This is odd. I've just loaded up the set I was using to test all this.

Value Scaling seems to work initially, but then the functionality is lost after switching presets a couple of times.

Is this a similar issue to the one with the UC33e?

Cheers
Richard
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Re: Takeover Mode - can you help clarify?

Post by condra » Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:29 pm

Just saw this thread. I'm having similar problems:
http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=109624

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