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Post by forge » Thu May 15, 2008 2:08 pm

it's like film noir, david lynch, joy division, velvet underground, jefferson airplane and the inkspots all rolled into one

it's utterly fantastic

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Post by logic_user99 » Thu May 15, 2008 3:40 pm

chrisedmo wrote:
forge wrote:you haters are all fools! - I fucken love this album
Amen - i wasn't too sure at first.. but after a good few listens with my nice speakers and actually listening to it - it feels cold, but there are parts in there which just grab you.. great album.

Apparently Radiohead covered The Rip whilst soundchecking or something they other day.. I hope they are inspired by this album and go all KID A / Amnesiac on us again..
That would be just lovely. 'The Rip' is my favorite song on the album...hell, the whole album is favorite song! L0lZ
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Post by Darwinist » Sat May 17, 2008 3:45 pm

"Third" is awesome.

I admit I went "WTF???" on my first listen thinking something had gone terribly wrong, but the second time around I was like "okeyyy, something's goin on here" and the third time around it had become "OMFG this is one awesome album!!!"

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Post by forge » Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:11 pm

I have to bump this

I really, really LOVE this album

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Post by nylarch » Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:51 pm

I slept on it too and I can't stop playing it at the moment. My wife said "more bands should take 10 years off if they don't have anything to say" and I kind of agree with her. Tricky should have taken that advice.
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Post by Nick the Zombie » Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:57 pm

forge wrote:it's like film noir, david lynch, joy division, velvet underground, jefferson airplane and the inkspots all rolled into one

it's utterly fantastic
This is pretty great description, actually. The more I listen to it the more I discover hidden away in the mix.

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Post by forge » Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:39 am

Nick the Zombie wrote:
forge wrote:it's like film noir, david lynch, joy division, velvet underground, jefferson airplane and the inkspots all rolled into one

it's utterly fantastic
This is pretty great description, actually. The more I listen to it the more I discover hidden away in the mix.
yeah - last night I had i tunes on with my library on shuffle in teh background and one track came on and instantly made me stop what I was doing and play the whole album and it was deeply inspiring and filled me with strong desires to try and come up with production that deep

what is so amazing about it is not one single aspect of the production is predictable

to give and example - say I'm writing a track and I feel it needs some kind of deep pads then the obvious thing to do is just play some cool pad sound on the keyboard - that is predictable

all of that album (and their other ones actually) just use textures and impressions to create the mood and feel

I mean of course there are guitars/ukelele and other instruments that play notes/chords/melody - but even there it is unpredictable

same with drum beats - you wont find the Amen break in there! ;-) lol

it made me dig out Joy Division actually - there are definitely some parallels there

I remember Massive attack's Mezzanine having a similar affect on me in 1998 when I just couldn't believe the production

to me it sounds like they write the original song, then produce it, then turn it upside down and produce it again, then turn it upside down and produce it again, then turn it upside down and produce it again, so that by the end there is almost nothing obvious and coherent in a "traditional" musical sense left

sometimes I feel like I forget all these principles when making music and go for obvious things - this is why I'm still working in versions of songs I started over ten years ago

it's albums like this that make me go " how the fuck did they do that" that totally re-inspire me and kick start a creative burst

I'm also noticing in this album, it sounds like they might have used a lot of really old gear - there sounds like a lot of genuine analogue grit and warmth - you especially notice it on the backing vocals of the ukelele track

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Post by Machinate » Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:43 am

forge wrote:I remember Massive attack's Mezzanine having a similar affect on me in 1998 when I just couldn't believe the production

to me it sounds like they write the original song, then produce it, then turn it upside down and produce it again, then turn it upside down and produce it again, then turn it upside down and produce it again, so that by the end there is almost nothing obvious and coherent in a "traditional" musical sense left
FWIW I believe that's exactly what Massive Attack did back in the day; master tapes (DATs?) back and forth between two (or was it more than two?) studios, with tweaks happening each time. I remember there being a huge article about their process in Future Music back then - when FM was a decent publication.

That article also sparked the trend we see everywhere now, with studios incorporating pedals in their sound design. Also sparked my deep and lasting lust after the Ghost mixers they used for fat overdrives on the inputs. yum.

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Post by forge » Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:56 am

Machinate wrote:
forge wrote:I remember Massive attack's Mezzanine having a similar affect on me in 1998 when I just couldn't believe the production

to me it sounds like they write the original song, then produce it, then turn it upside down and produce it again, then turn it upside down and produce it again, then turn it upside down and produce it again, so that by the end there is almost nothing obvious and coherent in a "traditional" musical sense left
FWIW I believe that's exactly what Massive Attack did back in the day; master tapes (DATs?) back and forth between two (or was it more than two?) studios, with tweaks happening each time. I remember there being a huge article about their process in Future Music back then - when FM was a decent publication.

That article also sparked the trend we see everywhere now, with studios incorporating pedals in their sound design. Also sparked my deep and lasting lust after the Ghost mixers they used for fat overdrives on the inputs. yum.
cool!

would like to read that article

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Post by Machinate » Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:16 am

yeah, part of me wishes I still had those mags :-?

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Post by angryman » Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:45 am

My favorite bits of the album and imo the best bits, are the silences between the tracks, They are the perfect length and the one at the end rocks the most :P
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Post by mattianlaseppia » Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:05 pm

this album is incredible.

the best of all, i never liked portishead so much until now.
it's in loop in my brain.

cool production, cool sounds, cool song.

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Post by jeskola » Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:26 pm

forge wrote:
Machinate wrote:
forge wrote:I remember Massive attack's Mezzanine having a similar affect on me in 1998 when I just couldn't believe the production

to me it sounds like they write the original song, then produce it, then turn it upside down and produce it again, then turn it upside down and produce it again, then turn it upside down and produce it again, so that by the end there is almost nothing obvious and coherent in a "traditional" musical sense left
FWIW I believe that's exactly what Massive Attack did back in the day; master tapes (DATs?) back and forth between two (or was it more than two?) studios, with tweaks happening each time. I remember there being a huge article about their process in Future Music back then - when FM was a decent publication.

That article also sparked the trend we see everywhere now, with studios incorporating pedals in their sound design. Also sparked my deep and lasting lust after the Ghost mixers they used for fat overdrives on the inputs. yum.
cool!

would like to read that article
Not quite, but try these

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct05/a ... attack.htm

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Apr03/a ... eattck.asp

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Post by forge » Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:28 pm

jeskola wrote:
forge wrote:
Machinate wrote:FWIW I believe that's exactly what Massive Attack did back in the day; master tapes (DATs?) back and forth between two (or was it more than two?) studios, with tweaks happening each time. I remember there being a huge article about their process in Future Music back then - when FM was a decent publication.

That article also sparked the trend we see everywhere now, with studios incorporating pedals in their sound design. Also sparked my deep and lasting lust after the Ghost mixers they used for fat overdrives on the inputs. yum.
cool!

would like to read that article
Not quite, but try these

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct05/a ... attack.htm

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Apr03/a ... eattck.asp
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Post by alex.the.forge » Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:06 am

forge wrote:it's like film noir, david lynch, joy division, velvet underground, jefferson airplane and the inkspots all rolled into one

it's utterly fantastic
I missed another important influence: Brigitte Fontaine.

Just bought this album, anyone who likes this portishead album might appreciate this one:

http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSt ... 4&s=143460

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