Live on Windows 7

blablub · Post by **blablub** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:45 am

hello!

now that the first public beta of windows 7 is out there, has anybody experiences how ableton live is working with it?

would be very interresting to me...

thx
blablub

Lo-Fi Massahkah · Post by **Lo-Fi Massahkah** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:40 pm

Try it if you can.

I wouldn't use anything seriously in a beta of an OS. People are still having driver trouble and what not with Vista - and that's been out for about two years.

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abitrubbish · Post by **abitrubbish** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:23 pm

I've been trying out the 64 bit build for a few days.
Games are working fine, playing videos, music etc is fine. Browsing is fine.
My LAN speeds have increased.
All my drivers installed automatically.
ASIO4All installed fine, but Daemon tools failed so I used VirtualCloneDVD instead.
The limited amount of new features seen cool enough.
Fast boot time.
Seems stable and usable. Snappy too.

Except from Live. Sigh.

It's OK except from playing clips which sends the CPU rocketing to 80-90%.

A bit of a deal breaker for me, so it's back to Vista. Shame really, but all in time I suppose.

McQ714 · Post by **McQ714** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:01 pm

why would playing live clips increase the processor usage like that? There are other processes that increase CPU usage much more than that... how does the rest of Live handle?

abitrubbish · Post by **abitrubbish** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:44 pm

I wish I knew. I've tried re-installing in compatibility mode, but it's still the same.

I've tried recording a few midi parts and they were fine, the VSTs I've tried so far have been OK too.

No luck with clips though. Dropping samples, or MP3/WAV tracks or samples gives the same troubles also.

Strangely Live shows only about 20% CPU (still higher than normal) but process explorer seem to show a more accurate reading of about 50% for Live (a whole 3Ghz core) and 30% for "system"
Process explorer (and task manager) are definitely giving the accurate reading though as it's totally unusable.

I knew there would be some issues with Windows 7 since it is a beta after all, it's just a pity it's with the one program I want to work the most.

Nogi · Post by **Nogi** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:04 am

32 bit version installed on a dual core laptop. Live 7 installed fine. No issues thus far with internal Sigmatel audio via ASIO4ALL. So far, so good firing clips and playing instruments. If anything noteworthy happens with more complicated sets later I'll post it here.

abitrubbish · Post by **abitrubbish** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:18 pm

Ahh, interesting. Maybe my problems are something to due to the 64 bit version.

Of course, it's maybe just some quirk due to a combination of hardware, drivers or something. Or perhaps just a beta thing.

I'll give the 32 bit version a try this week some time and see how it goes.

al83 · Post by **al83** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:24 pm

just want to say that i'm getting the same problems as abitrubbish. live seems to be eating away at the cpu like there's no tomorrow. live displays very low cpu, whereas windows is displaying >80% usage. live is slow and any latency below 10ms results in dropouts & clicks.

i'm running 32bit window 7 build 7000, 2gb ram, pentium d 3.4ghz, & creative x-fi fatal1ty. i have a feeling this is a creative issue.

what sound card are you running abitrubbish?

abitrubbish · Post by **abitrubbish** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:05 pm

I'm ashamed to say that at the moment I'm using my onboard sound. /shudder
I had to sell my firewire card before Christmas time.

It's Realtek 888 based and works reasonably well with Vista and ASIO4All.
It even works well with My Hackintosh OSX86 installation. Just not this beta.

al83 · Post by **al83** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:28 pm

i just tried using my onboard realtek and its exaclty the same as using my x-fi, slow as hell in ableton. anyone having success with windows 7?

can any of the ableton guys comment on windows 7 compatibillity?

Lo-Fi Massahkah · Post by **Lo-Fi Massahkah** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:17 pm

al83 wrote: can any of the ableton guys comment on windows 7 compatibillity?

www.ableton.com wrote:Windows: 1.5 GHz CPU or faster, 512 MB RAM (1 GB recommended), Windows XP or Windows Vista, Windows compatible sound card (ASIO driver support recommended), QuickTime 6.5 or higher, DVD-ROM drive

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System6music · Post by **System6music** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:03 pm

I am running the 32 bit version. I have used Live, Fl studio, Reason, Audacity, and other non-music apps.

This is the fastest OS from Windows I have ever used. Live isn't peaking over 10-20% when on vista it was pushing 40-70%. It is working amazing and I cannot believe after all the wait it actually delivers.

This thing literally boots faster, installs programs faster, uninstalls apps faster, etc. It is nothing short of amazing and I am very excited for the performance gain I have seen with Live.

I am dual booting it right now with Vista. Not a single crash or hang up so far. I downloaded it just to "Check it out", but haven't had a reason to boot Vista since.

adventurepants_ · Post by **adventurepants_** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:21 pm

al83 wrote:i just tried using my onboard realtek and its exaclty the same as using my x-fi, slow as hell in ableton. anyone having success with windows 7?

can any of the ableton guys comment on windows 7 compatibillity?

Why would they comment on the compatibility of their product with an OS that doesnt exist yet?

al83 · Post by **al83** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:44 pm

System6music wrote:I am running the 32 bit version. I have used Live, Fl studio, Reason, Audacity, and other non-music apps.

This is the fastest OS from Windows I have ever used. Live isn't peaking over 10-20% when on vista it was pushing 40-70%. It is working amazing and I cannot believe after all the wait it actually delivers.

This thing literally boots faster, installs programs faster, uninstalls apps faster, etc. It is nothing short of amazing and I am very excited for the performance gain I have seen with Live.

I am dual booting it right now with Vista. Not a single crash or hang up so far. I downloaded it just to "Check it out", but haven't had a reason to boot Vista since.

hmm interesting, do you mind telling me your system spec? cpu, ram, sound card etc...

adventurepants_ · Post by **adventurepants_** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:27 am

Been running the beta W7 on the lappie today, and it really is quite impressive. It runs very snappy, and no obvious stability problems.

BUT, Vista ran pretty well in beta too, it was when the RC was released that everyone knew we had problems!