Loops in Worship, Church Settings

gurumonkey · Post by **gurumonkey** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:59 am

not that this ship is going to right, but i would believe that the original thread was pretty legitmate as some of the artists making music that is currently sung in some christian services are very loop heavy. (David Crowder Band). really, the only way to reproduce their music in a live setting and do it well (yes, most of us have permission) would be to find a way to incorparte some of the blipy sound and synth parts, though most bands that would play for a christian worship service probably don't have talented enough synth players to layer all of those parts live, hench the topic to see if there are any other live users recreating such music.

no point to this post, but what the hey, figured i'd throw it out there.

Mr Mowgli · Post by **Mr Mowgli** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:34 am

Haaaaahahahlayloooyaaaaas!

UKRuss · Post by **UKRuss** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:03 am

Tone Deft wrote: it's what the people expect!!

(no disrespect intended, just ranting.)

maybe it's time we checked out their forum in our own special way.

the people= His people?

Tone Deft is the FSM???

**searches for pirate regalia and eye patch**

Actually I did have a good gander round their forum and I have to say (other than the underlying belief of course) it really is just a forum to discuss worship music...and very reasonable they are to each other too.

In fact there was a very interesting thread about infant baptism where most if not all of the posters felt it made them uncomfortable. Although they do seek some kind of affirmation from the parents that the child will be brought up in accordance with the beliefs of the church but baptism takes place when the child is old enough to decide for themselves. OK, by then the indoctrination is probably complete and the illusion of free will fulfilled but still...it wasn't wholly unsavoury from my point of view.

Very modern in fact. No suggestion we're all going to burn in a fiery hell for all eternity. Which is nice.

Actually here in ol' blightly we've been having a bit of a set too with the arse that is Stephen Green from Christian Voice who has made an official complaint to the advertising standards agency in respect of the atheist bus poster campaign, "There probably is no god etc." Hilariously, he has asked for the organisers to prove their claims or be in contravention of the advertising standards.

Effectively he is asking the ASA to decide on the existence of god, so we should all soon have the answers we seek.

On the back of that, if anyone is still actually reading this. Yesterday afternoon the "Thought For The Afternoon" was held, even if it was just a 'special' for the first time by a humanist. Ariane Sherine is a comedy writer but also the organiser of the atheist bu campaign and she spoke, however i found her a bit wishy washy but the interesting part was a section held by a christian who has backed the right of humanists to give thouht for the day and has effetively been cast out by the religious organisers.

His views and thoughts on modern day christianity and its position in society are refreshing.

if anyone wants to hear the programme i have uploaded it here:

Refreshing Views?

UKRuss · Post by **UKRuss** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:07 am

gurumonkey wrote:not that this ship is going to right, but i would believe that the original thread was pretty legitmate as some of the artists making music that is currently sung in some christian services are very loop heavy. (David Crowder Band). really, the only way to reproduce their music in a live setting and do it well (yes, most of us have permission) would be to find a way to incorparte some of the blipy sound and synth parts, though most bands that would play for a christian worship service probably don't have talented enough synth players to layer all of those parts live, hench the topic to see if there are any other live users recreating such music.

no point to this post, but what the hey, figured i'd throw it out there.

I hear what you are saying there but now I am even more intrigued in which way christian blips and synth differs from any other...

8O · Post by 8O » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:00 am

UKRuss wrote:if anyone wants to hear the programme i have uploaded it here:

Refreshing Views?

Interesting - thanks for that.

jez3122 · Post by **jez3122** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:58 am

your not suggesting we start an "athiest bus campaign" are you russ

UKRuss · Post by **UKRuss** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:09 am

I missed out. Been done. But should you wish to support you can do so here:

http://www.atheistbus.org.uk/

"Isn't it enough to see the garden is beautiful without believing there are fairies at the bottom of it too?" - Douglas Adams

brightonalex · Post by **brightonalex** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:44 am

I feel bad about my rant. I know a lot of nice Christians and they only want to share their happiness (and a tiny bit of helping them not go to hell).

So to try and make up for it I am going to think of a list of religious VSTs.

Here are the first two:

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KRISHNA SYNTH

DELAY LAMA

fmckinnon · Post by **fmckinnon** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:01 am

Wow, just got back over here - had no idea simple post with an effort to network some like-minded people who are trying to accomplish the same thing in our churches would generate such a thread ... I'm impressed.

brightonalex · Post by **brightonalex** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:54 am

In American churches do you sing traditional hymns, like in English churches?

I used to be in the choir and some of the lyrics would literally be:

"Praise! Praise Him. Praise! Praise Him". repeat 8 times.

And at the botom it would say "lyrics: Brightonalex" (or whatever) and I'd always wonder if someone was earning royalties for that?

fmckinnon · Post by **fmckinnon** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:05 pm

Hey,
The music here is incredibly diverse ... as a matter of fact, some of the more "U2-ish" sounding rock style that is used in some of the modern worship these days came from England - a band called Delirious (Martin Smith).

Here, you'll have super-traditional to extreme rock, hip-hop, rap, country, and all other styles. There's still plenty of churches singing old, traditional hymns, and plenty of places probably still doing old-school one liner and chants ... (though I've never heard that personally!).

twisted-space · Post by **twisted-space** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:24 pm

gjm wrote:^^^ Far out... thats rank. Worship music was being played during that. Pity it didn't have the original sound track. What were they all singing/saying?

Babylon and on and on..

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=215C-tadRmk

leisuremuffin · Post by **leisuremuffin** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:40 pm

UKRuss wrote: Very romantic view, LM's view, unfortunately for me it isnt about whats nice or what someones personal experience is, it is what actually is happening that matters. I'd rather spend my time trying to understand that.

yeah!

what *is* actually happening?

and when you want to understand, who is asking?

.lm.

twisted-space · Post by **twisted-space** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:51 pm

leisuremuffin wrote:

what *is* actually happening?

and when you want to understand, who is asking?

.lm.

http://www.sumo.tv/watch.php?video=2848004

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:20 pm

I was at funeral singing some hymns recently. I couldn't help but marvel at the awful phrasing of the lyrics. really really terrible. EG:

My soul He doth restore again,
And me to walk doth make
Within the paths of righteousness,
E’en for His own name’s sake.

"And me to walk doth make" ?
Ooof, tortuous meter fitting.

and me to think is rubbish does make

Loops in Worship, Church Settings

intention of the thread

Re: intention of the thread

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Wow

hymns