Total submission actually feels really nice once you resign yourself to it. All that thinking for yourself bullshit is over rated.dopepoo wrote:UKRuss wrote:
Icke, I am sure, does not have an Oyster card.
He should though, they're really convenient.
Yeah Icke! Give it a try; you might like it! Given the choice between personal freedom and optimising my journeys on the London underground? Oyster everytime!
I'm too lazy to not be suppresesd by my government anyway!
well, that's the question indeed. Maybe the whole 'lizard people' thing was a ruse to ensure people would not take him seriously about the other things he says that make senseforge wrote: Even if it's all true, how is he going to stop these lizard people?
.No, is this the one indicated as "Zeitgeist Addendum?".Meef Chaloin wrote:have you not seen Zeitgeist 2?mikemc wrote:
So whenever that looks like it's getting closer to happening, the various flavors of these predictors start pointing it out, but there is no recourse suggested.
I pity the guy that monitors me:Moody wrote:Somebody actually believes that the government is not logging our internet activity?
well, we swedes are monitored anyways: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FRA_lawfatrabbit wrote:But at the moment they are proposals - and I can't see it happening. Both in terms of legality and practicality. Sure, a lot of bad stuff has been done under the guise of anti-terror laws hastily brought in, but that can't continue indefinately - the public can't be scared all the time.silverlulu wrote:no i haven't even watched eagle eye. but from what you are saying you obviously don't keep up-to-date with the news.
this is a link from bbc's own website talking about the database. this has been discussed on the news and on poiltical programs and its been all over the internet and newspapers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7671046.stm
and this is a direct quote from it...
"Details of the times, dates, duration and locations of mobile phone calls, numbers called, website visited and addresses e-mailed are already stored by telecoms companies for 12 months under a voluntary agreement. "
it would only be speculation to say whether they lost that data intentionally or not. the point is that they have information about us and they want more. a lot of people aren't even aware.
And yet with all that they cant stop, (let alone actually catch the b**** afterwards) some f***** chav who breaks into your home.silverlulu wrote:well it depends how you look at it... there has been a lot of talk that the internet is going to be replaced gradually with a more monitored and restricted 2nd version of the internet. already, all our emails and websites we visit are stored so they can help against "the war on terror" *bullshit* *cough* *bullshit* *lies* *lies*forge wrote: the western lifestyle doesn't feel that oppressive to me, even if there are invisible lizard people running the world does it really stop us running Ableton Live and logging on the internet to see what happens at NAMM?
waste of a perfectly good life if you ask me.
you don't have to be wearing a tin hat to realise that we are monitored all the time. walking through town centre you get picked up on like 100 cameras. it's all slowly and subtly introduced in to our lives so we don't make a fuss.
yes we have a certain amount of freedom right now. but i think most will agree that we are getting less and less each year.
i am not saying that i believe everything these two say, but to dismiss it all as bullshit is just as naive as believing every word they say right down to the letter. i just find that is important to hear and listen to the other side, research what you have questions on and make your own judgments. people that come in and say that are mad really need to grow up, that is painfully ignorant.
'Skynet' actually exists already -Khazul wrote:
When they do however - you get skynet
Yeah plus most of the e-mails on the system will be about viagra. All that spam flying about.UKRuss wrote:I pity the guy that monitors me:Moody wrote:Somebody actually believes that the government is not logging our internet activity?
UKRuss: 9.01am: Talked codshit on the ableton forum, 2 hours 16mins.
UKRuss: 11.31am: Talked codshit on the ableton forum, 1hour 5mins.
UKRuss: 12.42pm: Oyster card pinpoints him on number 7 bus to London Zoo
etc.etc.
