What about Keycommands?

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What about Keycommands?

Post by Jupiter » Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:12 am

I can't find anything in the Live 8 featurelist that they have implemented
userdefineable keycommands which is my and many many other's most wanted feature.
If so i will definetely not upgrade.
Compared to Cubase 5 it looks like a very poor upgrade anyway :-(

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Post by Johnisfaster » Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:19 am

really? the absolute most important thing of any feature you could possibly have is user definable key commands?

that's just, shocking..
It was as if someone shook up a 6 foot can of blood soda and suddenly popped the top.

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Post by stringtapper » Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:29 am

I think most modern apps should have this feature. Complete customizability is really where it's at. However, Live doesn't have near the amount of key commands that a DAW like Logic does so I can't imagine it being a deal breaker, it's not that much to learn.
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Post by snakedogman » Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:56 am

actually the fact that it doesn't have many key commands (compared to other daw's) is the "problem".
In Live you have to use the mouse for a lot of things for which there simply is no key command.

But I think I read that Live 8 did have some more keycommands so let's wait and see which ones they added.

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Post by jamester » Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:00 am

Customizeable key commands and actions/macros are a BIG thing for me; the more customizeable, the better the workflow!

I was recently reminded by someone here of Vitamin L, which addresses this quite thoroughly. I'm looking forward to trying it out:

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?t=89115
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Post by snakedogman » Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:05 am

yeah I could never get that to work properly on my system though.

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Post by eddu » Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:25 am

I think the video said there are some keycommands for midi operations, but i didnt remember the word "customizable".

Really unbelievable if they are NOT customizabe. Is it so difficult to make them customizable? I wouldnt say i wont buy the thing just for this but man...once you have the keycommands, customizing should be a must!

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Post by snakedogman » Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:26 am

no it didn't say customisable and I'm sure they won't be or they would have mentioned it.

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Post by Tarekith » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:23 pm

No custom key commands in Live 8. This was a biggy for me too, bummer.

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Post by eddu » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:28 pm

Can we cofirm at this point Live 8 WONT have customizable keycommands anyway? I mean, public beta has not even begun..couldnt we ask in the Feature wishlst forum once it begins? I just cant imagine this being so difficult to implement. But maybe i am wrong..

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Post by 3dot... » Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:04 pm

Tarekith wrote:No custom key commands in Live 8. This was a biggy for me too, bummer.
not even through MFL+API...?~!
that would be a bummer for me too...
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Post by synnack » Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:13 pm

Not the same... but on Mac you can create and customize keyboard shortcuts for any menu item in Ableton Live. (or any other app)

http://macapper.com/2007/11/10/custom-k ... s-in-os-x/
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Post by Tarekith » Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:22 pm

No idea on how it works with MFL, but as of right now, there are no custom key commands in Live 8. Confirmed.

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Post by djsynchro » Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:22 pm

Well you can't have everything, but it would be cool

HOWEVER!!!! Before we all start whining our heads off, they do say in the video, added a load of new MIDI commands, so I'll happier in that area for sure.

Let's see what they've got.

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Post by madhattared » Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:54 pm

I use emacs on a daily basis to write code. Not having customizable key commands pains me whenever i'm navigating around the arrangement view. It could be a ton of work depending on how internal commands are described. But it would definitely be worth it for usability sake.
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