syncing to macs for live set (ableton 6 & 7)

the dark wizard · Post by **the dark wizard** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:55 pm

done a few searches and found many answers on various sites.

Me and a friend are looking at syncing our macbooks for a live set. Im on 7, hes on 6.....does this matter???

one laptop will be used for trigering tracks, and the other for loops/samples

whats the best way to do it guys???

cheers

gomi · Post by **gomi** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:59 pm

the dark wizard wrote:done a few searches and found many answers on various sites.

Me and a friend are looking at syncing our macbooks for a live set. Im on 7, hes on 6.....does this matter???

one laptop will be used for trigering tracks, and the other for loops/samples

whats the best way to do it guys???

cheers

midi doesn't care what software you are running, so it won't matter.

you just get to decide who is the master and who is the slave.... kinky.

Fieldy · Post by **Fieldy** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:59 pm

check out ipmidi.
mac version is free. you just sync your laptops via crossover lan cable.

the dark wizard · Post by **the dark wizard** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:42 am

Fieldy wrote:check out ipmidi.
mac version is free. you just sync your laptops via crossover lan cable.

you mean a normal cat 5 ethernet cable??

adhmzaiusz · Post by **adhmzaiusz** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:50 am

you dont need anything else, do it over airport. works fine. go to audio midi setup on both computers, and under midi tab go to network, create a new session on one computer and join the session on the other computer. make sure sync is on under live's preferences for the network.

my band uses this all the time on tour and we have visuals and lighting all sync'd through airport.

this is all off the top of my head, but its actually pretty easy to do. have fun.

the dark wizard · Post by **the dark wizard** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:58 am

adhmzaiusz wrote:you dont need anything else, do it over airport. works fine. go to audio midi setup on both computers, and under midi tab go to network, create a new session on one computer and join the session on the other computer. make sure sync is on under live's preferences for the network.

my band uses this all the time on tour and we have visuals and lighting all sync'd through airport.

this is all off the top of my head, but its actually pretty easy to do. have fun.

this sounds really cool but I think I would rather hardwire it, I would panic of it losing connection/sync during a set

madhattared · Post by **madhattared** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:05 am

the dark wizard wrote:
Fieldy wrote:check out ipmidi.
mac version is free. you just sync your laptops via crossover lan cable.
you mean a normal cat 5 ethernet cable??

a crossover cable is a different cable then a normal cat 5 ethernet cable.

here is the diagram http://www.ertyu.org/steven_nikkel/ethernetcables.html

Use the mac midi network app to create midi tunnels from one machine to another.

more here : http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar07/a ... p_0307.htm

jonny72 · Post by **jonny72** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:06 am

the dark wizard wrote:
Fieldy wrote:check out ipmidi.
mac version is free. you just sync your laptops via crossover lan cable.
you mean a normal cat 5 ethernet cable??

No, he means a crossover cable, which is like a cat 5 ethernet cable except its called a crossover - which is for hooking up two computers via the ethernet port. The standard cable is for connecting a computer to a router.

the dark wizard · Post by **the dark wizard** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:15 am

jonny72 wrote:
the dark wizard wrote:
Fieldy wrote:check out ipmidi.
mac version is free. you just sync your laptops via crossover lan cable.
you mean a normal cat 5 ethernet cable??
No, he means a crossover cable, which is like a cat 5 ethernet cable except its called a crossover - which is for hooking up two computers via the ethernet port. The standard cable is for connecting a computer to a router.

cheers mate, i knew it would be a cross over, just double checking its was the ethernet style, I wasnt sure if you could get other crossovers like usb or that, cheers

adhmzaiusz · Post by **adhmzaiusz** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:37 am

airport sync is pretty stable, we sync 3 computers each running video, lighting and audio. There was only one instance where our sync got messed up at a gig in vancouver, for whatever reason maybe some strong interference of some sort from a broadcasting station nearby.

but otherwise, you have to be able to deal with these issues in a professional manner on stage, because problems have a way of happening when you least expect them even when you are sure everything was set right.

another idea is to use a midi interface for each computer, that is probably the best hardwire solution. since the newer live update the external sync has been fixed.

the dark wizard · Post by **the dark wizard** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:24 am

adhmzaiusz wrote:airport sync is pretty stable, we sync 3 computers each running video, lighting and audio. There was only one instance where our sync got messed up at a gig in vancouver, for whatever reason maybe some strong interference of some sort from a broadcasting station nearby.

but otherwise, you have to be able to deal with these issues in a professional manner on stage, because problems have a way of happening when you least expect them even when you are sure everything was set right.

another idea is to use a midi interface for each computer, that is probably the best hardwire solution. since the newer live update the external sync has been fixed.

Hi mate, Ive been doing live stuff for 10 years so I have experienced plenty of problems, thats why im a bit dubious.....had you hardwired your 3 machines that time you wouldnt have had any probs

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:38 am

the dark wizard wrote:
adhmzaiusz wrote:you dont need anything else, do it over airport. works fine. go to audio midi setup on both computers, and under midi tab go to network, create a new session on one computer and join the session on the other computer. make sure sync is on under live's preferences for the network.

my band uses this all the time on tour and we have visuals and lighting all sync'd through airport.

this is all off the top of my head, but its actually pretty easy to do. have fun.
this sounds really cool but I think I would rather hardwire it, I would panic of it losing connection/sync during a set

Nah, it is as likely to use a connection, don't be afraid.

gomi · Post by **gomi** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:40 pm

macs don't need crossover cables, only useless PC's do.

shatzer · Post by **shatzer** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:46 pm

gomi wrote:macs don't need crossover cables, only useless PC's do.

But isn't a useless PC called a Mac?

uh oh, here it goes...he he

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:21 pm

the damn edit button always quotes... (/&(/&(/ GGGRRR...

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