Is vinyl going to die soon?

TRS80 · Post by **TRS80** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:03 am

ok i get the thread drift: vinyl is gonna make a big comeback! I'll look back on this thread in a couple of years lol :roll out of the 14 djs i personally know- one of them plays vinyl.

i didn't read anything in the op about vinyl vs cd. but ok compare 2 dying mediums. rock on.

smutek · Post by **smutek** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:58 am

TRS80 wrote:ok i get the thread drift: vinyl is gonna make a big comeback! I'll look back on this thread in a couple of years lol :roll out of the 14 djs i personally know- one of them plays vinyl.

have you ever considered that maybe more people than the 14 dj's you "personally know" are into collecting vinyl?

like, believe it or not, some people who collect vinyl aren't even djs?

lol omg

doc holiday · Post by **doc holiday** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:44 am

in a few years some cats gonna be throwing down wax like there's no tomorrow.

all the kids in the crowd will be like

WTF is that guy doing

jj0b · Post by **jj0b** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:15 am

TRS80 wrote:ok i get the thread drift: vinyl is gonna make a big comeback! I'll look back on this thread in a couple of years lol :roll out of the 14 djs i personally know- one of them plays vinyl.

i didn't read anything in the op about vinyl vs cd. but ok compare 2 dying mediums. rock on.

I won't argue that vinyl may well be on the decline with dj's, but it is on the increase with regular music listeners. The number of artists and record labels releasing on vinyl has been increasing. Mainstream artists that never released on vinyl are now commonly releasing on cd, vinyl and mp3. I don't think this market will ever be huge, but at least for now it is on the rise.

nathannn · Post by **nathannn** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:15 am

smutek wrote:
TRS80 wrote:ok i get the thread drift: vinyl is gonna make a big comeback! I'll look back on this thread in a couple of years lol :roll out of the 14 djs i personally know- one of them plays vinyl.

have you ever considered that maybe more people than the 14 dj's you "personally know" are into collecting vinyl?

like, believe it or not, some people who collect vinyl aren't even djs?

lol omg

absolutely do not care anything about ever becoming a dj, but the only music format i will buy (until surround sound on dvd or blue ray becomes popular) is vinyl.
i look at vinyl and i think 'music' i look at cd and think " dvd cdrw cheap aol disk that keeps getting sent to me"
vinyl isnt going to die
i see it becoming even more popular and collectible to younger music lovers

Yhtomit · Post by **Yhtomit** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:17 am

creature wrote:If anything, the sales of vinyl has gone up over the last couple of years. Bucking the trend completely considering cd sales are getting lower.

are you nuts??

aniajudie · Post by **aniajudie** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:58 am

I think that most of the one's who think vinyl production for dance music will always be around, are the old skool dj's who were born into it. I think many new skool djs are more raised in this newer era of digital production.
Vinyl will be like the analog equipment and all that stuff is pretty much obsolete.
Digital is here to stay and only advance more.
I like vinyl and there is a warm and wonderful feeling about it ..(physical sound)
but the way the business is looking, it will slowly evolve out..(I think).

creature · Post by **creature** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:59 am

obviously i am not saying vinyl has over taken cd's. I am saying that sales of vinyl have increased over the last few years. CD sales have been reducing. Naturally cd sales in total are still more. I think more dj's are turning away from vinyl as lugging crates around isn't practical anymore. But I guess normal consumers have been buying more of them. I'll have a google later and look for the articles I found on it.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:18 am

vinyl sales are on the rise. Add to that the fact that people have been crying about the death of vinyl for what, decades now? Next pressing issue, please.

TRS80 · Post by **TRS80** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:36 am

I would love to see a big $$$ demand for vinyl. I'm sitting on 60 crates collectd from near 20 years and I look forward *hopefully* from making a mint form them.

Although I feel you vinyl overs. There are some pieces that I just could not bear to part with.

I really feel that new digital sales are gonna have to get some type of physical artwork and feel combined with their releases for them to become collectible. In fact, I think some current bands are doing just that.

I never could relate to the idea of paying for a ringtone or digital "bling." But, from what I see, this may be the future?

And to the person who says my 14 personal dj friends is not representative of the entire world- I agreee! Of course it isn't. I realized that! And you must understand I am coming from the practical point of view- not a collector (although I am one.)

Vinyl is kinda cool yeah. And I have loved it for a long time. I am not coming at you guys from that point of view. I really have affection for it, and can very much understand why people love it. But if we are talking music distribution- it is simply and (albeit beloved) adjunct to something larger. It used to rule. I remember and wish I could make the clock turn back. Ever since I had kids waving their CDs at me and showing attitude from some thing they pirated online while I had gone and searched and paid for my piece of wax- well I realized vinyl is dead- practically speaking. I'm not running an art gallery- I need what I need. The soundwaves don't care where they came from, and your average person out for a fun night certainly doesn't. But don't mis-understand me- I love(ed) vinyl. It meant power. Now? eh...everyone has stolen everything. There is no mystery left. Rather than go insane over that- I just dealt with it.

Tom Void · Post by **Tom Void** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:13 am

Funny thing is, this has been a topic for so long, it should completely anull itself automatically when written!

In the Scandinavian countries, vinyl has been on a hasty decline for years, and many of my favourite shops, some i shopped at in a decade, have closed permanently.
However I now se the opposite! A major Danish newspaper recently had an article about the rise of several small botique shops, selling new vinyl. And the big news in that! is simply that a paper which covers all aspects of daily news, post such a article on something so rare!
This is not only small labels who distribute through these shops!

My vinyl collection is as dear as my 3 year old son, however He hasn't got the same affectionate value to me yet, as he hasn't grown with me for 20 years.

My biggest issue is not the choice of format, but the quality!
Without listening as a collector, but as someone who's used vinyl in clubs for years, there was still an audible difference, even in banged up PA's, between a Vinyl on a 1210 with a good pick-up versus the standard 192K mp3, which most people happily use Today.
CD's did have a audible advantage even in the beginning of pro. dj'ing, but I think it's only now the practical use of it resembles the possibilities of vinyl.
And I'm in the choir of CD's demise singers, as it will not stand the test of time against downloads with alle the portable players around.
I mean who carries around a CD walkman Today????

Why not burry the hatchet on this Vinyl thing now, and leave us who love it to keep it that way! If it dissapears, so be it!
Till then we are the modern living building-block of analog dinosaurs!

*The only thing I am not missing, is chugging around on the road with 3 record boxes of 40-80 vinyls each! Albeit it did add to my physical impression, which can't be said about working in the studio

*

al83 · Post by **al83** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:09 pm

you know what? i play with serato, but always bring a few of the latest (real) records along to a gig, just so much more fun mixing it and people love to see you play vinyl.

snap · Post by **snap** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:57 pm

Vinyl was never dead, and it`s only going to die when the raw materials to make it are exhausted.

Since the introduction of the CD, vinyl sales have remained constant.
increase in vinyl sales have been reported for the last few years.

Full album sales have declined because of the single track download available.
But not vinyl.

Here`s some Google:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20 ... vinyl.html

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20 ... -tank.html

http://www.wired.com/entertainment/musi ... gpost_1029

http://media.www.mtsusidelines.com/medi ... 2046.shtml

chrysalis33rpm · Post by **chrysalis33rpm** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:57 pm

I've been hearing this question asked over and over again since I was a kid...I think the answer can conclusively be said to be: No, it's not going to disappear, it is going to be (and has been for a long time already) a niche market. Reasons have already been stated above- it comes down to: vinyl is cool. Retro is cool. Physicality is cool. People like that, and will pay for it. Not millions and millions of people, but enough. End.

Oh, and the, "Don't buy vinyl, its a petroleum product!" argument- give me break. Do you really think that all the records pressed worldwide in a given year compare even slightly to the amount of petroleum used in world transportation and manufacturing in one day? Doubtful. There are better places to concentrate your green efforts.

julienb · Post by **julienb** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:37 pm

everything dies one day...

Is vinyl going to die soon?

How many years left until dj vinyl is dead?