[Max for Live] what will be the first device you'll build ?

Coupe70 · Post by **Coupe70** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:34 pm

- editor for Casio CZ5000, Waldorf MicroQ & Pulse
- a video sample player for visuals triggered via LAN

julienb · Post by **julienb** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:42 pm

it could be nice to make a wiki, tutorials, download area on a website...

nbinder · Post by **nbinder** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:44 pm

...something to store MIDI controller data snapshots

hdrpbx · Post by **hdrpbx** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:52 pm

julienb wrote:
hdrpbx wrote:hopefully, if it will be possibile to send/recieve midisysex to/from external devices, an editor for my emu 5000-ultra sampler
dont know how much time it will take me toh, i just donwloaded the max 5 demo and i'm still at the print "hello world" phase of the tutorials , lol

max manages sysex with no problem!
and max for live = max/msp/jitter + live object... so

yes..cheking out the sxformat and sysexin objects now!
and the funny thing is theres actually an example of how to control the cutoff (via sysex of course) on a (emu) emax sampler
i'm finally starting to figure out how to create a similar device , altough there's still many other things i have to know about max before creating a usable patch, but now that i'm following the tutorials and the online help is becoming easier than i expected...too bad the demo will expire in 27 days or something

Darwinist · Post by **Darwinist** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:59 pm

Seems like one of the major things Max4Live is going to do is give a lot of people's old hardware a second lease of life...

3dot... · Post by **3dot...** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:02 pm

I was thinking a modulation section... with savable snapshots...

Geezus · Post by **Geezus** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:15 pm

Low Frequency Obstinator wrote:
Geezus wrote:
3rdordertrauma wrote: And I hope you do!! And I hope you share! Actually I would be happy with just the multi-point envelopes part of it.

Myself... well I'll be learning max first... I'm sure that will absorb a good chunk of time.
I got a long way to go before I learn enough to apply the idea. And yes I will be sharing, but if I put in a bunch of time on it and it works really well I'll prolly charge like 10 bux for it.
From a previous thread I undestood that you use a pirated copy of live?
Hope the devices you create and sell for 10 bux don't suffer from being created on cracked software.

Just a thought.

I am perfectly fine with people stealing my stuff, music or otherwise. However, I myself am not going to just hand out a year's worth of work for free. I'll let the pirates pirate and anyone else who feels they can spare a measly 10 bucks give me the 10 bucks. Its not that big of a financial commitment to really warrant vast amounts of piracy. I pirated Live because I have no income so spending $500 bucks on something that was available for free wasn't really an option for me. Again, I fully intend to buy the suite this time around because I can probably do some accounting trickery and I think they deserve it anyway. If people feel the same about my stuff then great, but I'm not going to be pissed off or judge people for stealing it.

Low Frequency Obstinator · Post by **Low Frequency Obstinator** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:42 pm

Nice one Geez,

If they're well made devices and sell like hot cakes you will have an proper income.......... and also have an idea of what its like NOT to have an income at the same time. Its that kind of mind-set that can launch a carreer big time...

The downside is all the damn tax you have to pay and fact that your hobby is now your profession and feels like work rather than fun.....

Best of luck for 09.

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:43 pm

editors for both my Voyager and Evolver..
complemented with a ton worth of XY pads, envelopes, LFOs, mod seq, etc ect..

that and a cowbell player..

Geezus · Post by **Geezus** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:57 pm

Low Frequency Obstinator wrote:Nice one Geez,

If they're well made devices and sell like hot cakes you will have an proper income.......... and also have an idea of what its like NOT to have an income at the same time. Its that kind of mind-set that can launch a carreer big time...

The downside is all the damn tax you have to pay and fact that your hobby is now your profession and feels like work rather than fun.....

Best of luck for 09.

I'm not looking for a fucking career, I'm looking to create a device *I* want to use and if people want to chip in 10 bucks to use it too, great. That's just bonus sushi money.

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:01 pm

Geezus wrote:
Low Frequency Obstinator wrote:
Geezus wrote: I got a long way to go before I learn enough to apply the idea. And yes I will be sharing, but if I put in a bunch of time on it and it works really well I'll prolly charge like 10 bux for it.
From a previous thread I undestood that you use a pirated copy of live?
Hope the devices you create and sell for 10 bux don't suffer from being created on cracked software.

Just a thought.
I am perfectly fine with people stealing my stuff, music or otherwise. However, I myself am not going to just hand out a year's worth of work for free. I'll let the pirates pirate and anyone else who feels they can spare a measly 10 bucks give me the 10 bucks. Its not that big of a financial commitment to really warrant vast amounts of piracy. I pirated Live because I have no income so spending $500 bucks on something that was available for free wasn't really an option for me. Again, I fully intend to buy the suite this time around because I can probably do some accounting trickery and I think they deserve it anyway. If people feel the same about my stuff then great, but I'm not going to be pissed off or judge people for stealing it.

a bit double standards dont you think..?
stealing but not willing to share.. hmmm..

great attitude to contribute to collective efforts..

Surreal · Post by **Surreal** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:09 pm

I hope to build an elaborate (but intuitive for me) control scheme for live.

Geezus · Post by **Geezus** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:11 pm

Poster wrote: a bit double standards dont you think..?
stealing but not willing to share.. hmmm..
great attitude to contribute to collective efforts..

a) I already paid for MAX and I intend to pay for ableton suite and M4L so I wont be designing the device on any pirated software, so that point is moot. I have never charged a nickle for anything I ever created on pirated software.

b) what part of "I dont care if people rip it off" doesnt make sense to you? IF this thing ever gets created then I'll be charging a measly 10 bucks for it because I think people will want it enough to warrant a contribution. If they dont want to make it and find someone else who has it, then they can go get it from them. I'm not gonna come at them with a fucking pitchfork and a lawyer to demand retribution. But I'm also not gonna spend a year designing something incredibly useful and just hand it out for free like that. I think 10 bucks is fair. what I wont stand for is someone taking it and selling it themselves

c) it IS sharing, but its requiring a donation to my gas fund. I could keep it all to myself and torture people with videos like Tim Exile does with his reaktor setup.

d) this thing doesnt even exist yet. I barely even know enough MAX to find my own asshole. relax.

julienb · Post by **julienb** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:12 pm

Please geezus.. Don't pirate/hack this thread!
Make whatever you want.. But respect the "spirit" of the thread

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:17 pm

julienb wrote:Personnaly, I'll try to clone impulse in order to get mute / solo control via midi !!!

I'd like to use it because of the coherence of rythm pattern: all in one clip, etc

Oh man, I'm so sorry to inform you that that's the one thing you CAN'T do with Max for Live. You prolly haven't heard, huh? http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?t=105489

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