Is vinyl going to die soon?

slatepipe · Post by **slatepipe** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:39 pm

i haven't bought a cd in ages, but last year i bought a fair bit of vinyl, i like watching it go round and round on the turntable. i tried doing that through the little window on my cd player but the cd spins too fast and makes my eyes hurt

they're a thing of beauty too, especially coloured vinyl. best thing i got last year was a massive triple album purple splattered vinyl live album by boris and merzbow

ChiDJ · Post by **ChiDJ** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:24 pm

When the clubs take the twelves out of the booth, it's over.

Most of the twelves in Chicago are being used as laptop stands.

sad.

Nothin' like those twelves.

aniajudie · Post by **aniajudie** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:33 pm

Interesting points and opinions here.

But what abut all the big name dj's such as Sasha, Carl Cox , Ritchie Hawtin, Chris Liebing...
they all seem to only use digital methods and not a piece of vinyl used anymore. In fact Ritchie claims vinyl is a bitch to deal with.

Are these good examples of what is going on and the future..?

aniajudie · Post by **aniajudie** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:42 pm

This guy does not need Live or vinyl:)

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Tom Void · Post by **Tom Void** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:20 pm

aniajudie wrote:In fact Ritchie claims vinyl is a bitch to deal with.

Whatever way you choose to perform is no matter what others might feel, the right one for you!
It's not the gear you use or how you use it, but how your creativity comes across to you audience as a success. (admitted there is offcourse a difference in personal skill, but that is totally individual!)

Today we have so many choices that it boggles us, and this musical world would be better off with one DAW, one musical media and one genre! All others would be deviants, and dealt with by the propper authorities!

Anywho, Vinyl is a bitch, but isn't that the same as marriage, I love mine although I'm convinced she is one!

jj0b · Post by **jj0b** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:34 pm

I get the feeling that some of you saying that vinyl is dying haven't read half the threads here because you seem to be only thinking of vinyl in terms of electronic music records.

Vinyl for djs is probably decreasing, but vinyl in general is increasing. There are lots of articles on line that are reporting this globally and certainly in Canada where I live. Vinyl is not just for djs and it is certainly not dying.

chrysalis33rpm · Post by **chrysalis33rpm** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:55 pm

aniajudie wrote:Interesting points and opinions here.

But what abut all the big name dj's such as Sasha, Carl Cox , Ritchie Hawtin, Chris Liebing...
they all seem to only use digital methods and not a piece of vinyl used anymore. In fact Ritchie claims vinyl is a bitch to deal with.

Are these good examples of what is going on and the future..?

Well, it seems like your question is really "Is vinyl for club DJs dying?"

That's a much more specific question- and the answer is, as the main format, it's already gone. Look around. It has attained or is not far from retrocool status even in clubs. Only us old guys use it, the new kids all show up with a cracked Traktor and some Behringer or Vestax controller. But that's cool- I am great with not carrying around 4 milk crates of records to my gigs, instead just whipping out a couple of favorite records to mix in. Crowds seem to enjoy watching a DJ really mix records- maybe its just BS, but it gives them a feel that something 'real' is happening, that the perfomance couldn't possibly be canned.

I am most interested in a hybrid approach to mixing and production- where any sound source, live or recorded, can potentaily become input for then mix, ingredients in the BIG SOUP.

Look, DJs have a job to get done like any other pro- and the fact is that digital files are a hell of a lot more convenient, generally cheaper, and the cost of entry in terms of equipment is lower. So that equation gives you the general trajectory.

But vinyl, in general, is doing just fine.

ChiDJ · Post by **ChiDJ** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:31 pm

Black Vinyl In My Head

Turnin' around as the sound is fed

from the needle to my brain

by the buzz of the bass

shrinks the space between

me and you.

2005 - Tod Miner, Priapic Records

memes_33 · Post by **memes_33** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:38 pm

i don't "dj" with vinyl anymore, but i buy vinyl and record it at 48/24 so it sounds better when time-warped. sometimes 96/24. and no matter how good the warping features in live/serato/whathaveyou get, they will never sound as good as simply slowing or speeding a record up. you're not dropping data or adding grains when you slow down a turntable.

i'm glad that consumers are at least realizing how shitty mp3's sound. i can't believe dj's think they can get away with using mp3's in a big club and time-stretching them on top?! wtf? that sounds horrible!

even if i never dj vinyl again, i probably buy it. hell, i'm still buying cd's (or downloading wavs) because they sound better than mp3.

DJ Marky Marc · Post by **DJ Marky Marc** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:58 pm

I love vinyl.. but im not playing out with it any more cos its too damn heavy..

vinyl is in short supply.. I can buy the .Wav online for less.. wont be long before its gone..

sad but its not going to last forever...

hacktheplanet · Post by **hacktheplanet** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:36 am

Vinyl's been dying for 20 years.

Is vinyl going to die soon?

How many years left until dj vinyl is dead?