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OT-Your Online Footprint

Post by gjm » Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:03 am

Yahoo wrote:Can stuff that's written online about me affect my chances of a job later on?

"Kyle Doyle is not going to work, f*** it, I'm still trashed. SICKIE, WOO!" Woo, indeed - until his boss found out.

Just a few months ago, Kyle Doyle learnt the hard way that nothing online is truly private. According to the Sydney Morning Herald, after a big night out, he decided to skip work - and make it quite clear on his Facebook page, by setting it as his status. Soon this was doing the rounds at work via email, and then it made its way to his manager.

And he's not the only employee who has been busted on social networking sites, saying and revealing things he shouldn't. In the UK, for example, the airline Virgin Atlantic has just sacked 13 flight attendants for saying their planes aren't safe and are full of "cockroaches". They also called their passengers "chavs" (the UK equivalent of bogans).

But it's not just employees that this is having an impact on. I think most at risk are people going for jobs. A recent survey in the US found 20 per cent of employers will Google applicants before they hire them, and a third of those employers admitted they rejected applicants after what they found.

Although legally employers aren't allowed to discriminate against people based on their personal lives, they do. Think about it - if there were 10 people applying for a job, and three had galleries of them being stupid at parties - will the employer be rushing to hire them? I think not.

Gaynor Lowndes, a recruitment manager says, "Recruiters absolutely use your networking sites to make judgements about you," and went on to say she's seen cases where job offers have been retracted because of what employers have found online. She suggests, "If you want to keep it private, keep it off the web."

Stephanie Rice also learnt the hard way. When she rose to prominence earlier this year, the media scavenged her net-footprint - finding anything they could that would create media headlines. The next day, splashed across the pages of the biggest newspapers in the nation, were pictures of her goofing around at parties, giving the media space to label her whatever they wanted.

And lawyers are also showing interest. When someone's involved in a court case, lawyers may search for opposing parties on the internet to find anything damaging that they can. If they do, they can then use it to tarnish the character of others in court, boosting their case. So even though you mightn't think about it now, in 10 or 20 years time, if you're ever involved in a court case, what's online could be used against you.

The message is to always think b4 you click, and be aware of your online footprint. Before you put things on the net, ask yourself: What would my parents/teachers think of this? What would potential employers think of this?

Even though you can set things to private, you have no guarantee that they will remain that way. It's as simple as someone who has access to your private profile saving the page and posting it somewhere else. Essentially, once you put something online, it's out of your hands.

And it's not just what you put online about yourself, but what others put up there too. Anyone can take and post pictures or information online about you. Try typing your name in quotes into Google (e.g. "Tom Wood") and if you're not happy with what you find, get it removed. You can do this by asking the person who posted it, and if they refuse then contact whoever runs the website, and report it.

My final suggestion is, considering employers use your net-footprint to make judgements about you, you may be able to use it to your advantage. If you're going for a job, you could add to your profile that you're really passionate about the position, company or something similar!

Kyle Doyle probably wished he set his status as him actually being sick. If only he knew how far his status could spread...
Ever been stung?
Do you manage your footprint?
Are you concerned about your foot print.

Tips and tricks to manage it?
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Post by beats me » Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:16 am

If I ever get pulled into a closed door meeting with my boss and his boss I fully expect the term "ableton.com forum" to be brought to my attention.

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Post by Jekblad » Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:52 am

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Post by beats me » Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:07 am

Jekblad wrote:goodbye forever "beats me"

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=si ... tnG=Search
Oh wow. That's both fantastic and scary.

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Post by timothyallan » Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:52 am

That query bottlenecks Abletons audio quality.

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Post by ChiDJ » Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:50 pm

Yeah, I got stung.

I've always been aware of my postings and, aside from this site, (Here I use an alias). I disclose very little about my personal life. My Myspace page is purely for promotion and I don't have a facebook page.

During my ugly 2 year divorce, my ex-wife's scumbag attorney somehow got into my girlfriend's myspace page, (which was set to private), and got a hold of several "inflammatory and revealing" pictures showing various extravagant gifts and trips we had taken together.

I was quite surprised to see huge posterboard photos presented in court of me and my new girl in hot-tubs and clubs in Vegas and Miami. That definitely had a negative effect on my case. :oops:

He was also able to google a large settlement I had recieved during a civil suit which occurred during the course of my divorce. That also cost me.

So, yeah, I can relate. :(
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Post by jeskola » Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:34 pm

If you have some time, watch this.

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/kevi ... e_web.html
“As the web becomes more ubiquitous in our lives the conflict between the desire for privacy and the usefulness of having the "one" machine know as much as possible about you ,will be become a real concern for many people.”

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Post by Aequitas123 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:41 pm

i couldn't care less if an employer saw it. if something like my facebook or forum posts were a deciding factor on anything i wouldn't want to work for them anyways.

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Post by gjm » Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:19 pm

jeskola wrote:If you have some time, watch this.

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/kevi ... e_web.html
“As the web becomes more ubiquitous in our lives the conflict between the desire for privacy and the usefulness of having the "one" machine know as much as possible about you ,will be become a real concern for many people.”
Wow. Thanks for that. VERY interesting and thought provoking. :)

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Post by Tone Deft » Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:26 pm

Aequitas123 wrote:i couldn't care less if an employer saw it. if something like my facebook or forum posts were a deciding factor on anything i wouldn't want to work for them anyways.
seriously...

my coworkers know I whore here, we all do it, nobody cares because we get our jobs done.
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Post by longjohns » Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:22 am

essentially I don't post anything to anywhere on the web except for here. that means that as far as the internet is concerned, I am Longjohns.

besides, I am mild-mannered and don't engage in tomfoolery. mostly.

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Post by gjm » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:08 am

Just this afternoon I was speaking to a friend we have staying with us from Canada. we talked about her daughters girlfriend, who was on staff at a very well to do High School with religious ties. My friend uses things like Facebook to basically check up on her kids and their choice of friends. Her daughters friends Facebook page left a lot to be desired, and not too much to the imagination (my friends perspective). Just recently she noticed that this girls page had been wiped/scrapped (her words) and that the girl no longer is teaching at that particular school.

I have a website that I use for my teaching. Its very pathetic. But, in the last year I have had three people from my loooong lost past look me up by googling my name. I also noticed that google maps have done a thing here in NZ where they have driven all over the country, basically down every street and taken pics of every address. Because my address is on my website, you can look at my front door, or walk in 10ft gaps up and down my street looking 360deg.

I don't belong to any social networking sites, but have considered it as a way of developing my own website. Not really sure how. I know this thread so far has had the negative side of things talked about, but what about the positive side of managing your online footprint. Do any of you engage in a planned/controlled (as much as you can) 'release' of your image to the world, either as a part of your profession, or just plain social presence? How are you shaping your image.

In the Ted talk referred to earlier by jeskola the author had a short summary at the end.
There is only One machine
The web is its own OS
All screens look into the One
No bits will live outside the web
To share is to gain
Let the One read it
The One is us.
The need to be living a life of transparency really stuck me as immediate.

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Post by SuperBassMexican » Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:28 am

Wow I just googled myself well my server name and I found posts from old forums I had been on long ago. It was crazy!
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Post by john doe by choice » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:03 am

googled myself, found nothing, thank god - I'm pretty paranoid about the net, and just have enough info on my facebook page to let people from high school find me, no more....come to think about it, maybe I should put a little less on my facebook page :wink:

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