I'm generally new to MIDI, so thats probably my problem. I would like to be able to start and stop clips as well as loop.
Is there any way I can go MIDI thru my Axiom?
Thanks in advance
FCB1010 help
FCB1010 help
I just got a FCB 1010 and I'm new to ableton. I've watched all the vids (thanks UKRuss) read alot of the post here . And I'm still not figuring this thing out.
I'm generally new to MIDI, so thats probably my problem. I would like to be able to start and stop clips as well as loop.
Is there any way I can go MIDI thru my Axiom?
Thanks in advance
I'm generally new to MIDI, so thats probably my problem. I would like to be able to start and stop clips as well as loop.
Is there any way I can go MIDI thru my Axiom?
Thanks in advance
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Glad to help...except it didn't help 
But never fear!
In answer to your midi daisy chaining question, yes you can connect your kit.
Might be better to go 'midi out' from your FCB to 'midi in' on your axiom then USB from your axiom to your PC/mac.
But this only helps you set up...how far did you get with your programming of your FCB amnd your midi assignments in Live.
My vids should really take you from start to finish.
two parts of vid programming your FCB and two parts of vid using Live as a guitar looper.
Happy for you to PM me or e-mail UKRuss at mac dot com
But never fear!
In answer to your midi daisy chaining question, yes you can connect your kit.
Might be better to go 'midi out' from your FCB to 'midi in' on your axiom then USB from your axiom to your PC/mac.
But this only helps you set up...how far did you get with your programming of your FCB amnd your midi assignments in Live.
My vids should really take you from start to finish.
two parts of vid programming your FCB and two parts of vid using Live as a guitar looper.
Happy for you to PM me or e-mail UKRuss at mac dot com
after yearsssss if programming- this makes life so much easier!
http://www.wabbitwanch.com/iFCB.html
http://www.wabbitwanch.com/iFCB.html
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LoopStationZebra
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If you follow these steps, things should be looking up for your FCB! Got this from an age old thread somewhere.....
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Firstly, this guide assumes that your FCB1010 is fresh out of the box. If it isn’t just do a factory reset (…fortunately this is something that IS accurately explained in the FCB1010 manual).
It also assumes that you’ve connected the FCB1010 to you computer via a MIDI interface and have already set this up in Live’s MIDI preferences. Oh, and that the FCB1010 is powered on. ;p
A quick note, in the instructions PUSH refers to a quick push of the pedal, HOLD means hold the pedal down for about 2.5 seconds. Now, onto programming.
1. Select the bank to program by tapping the UP/ENTER or DOWN/ESCAPE pedals. In this example, let’s use Bank 05. Ensure that 05 appears in the numeric display
2. Select the pedal to assign a MIDI CC message to. Let’s use pedal #1. Pedal #1’s red LED should light up
3. Push the DOWN/ESCAPE pedal until the green LED for SWITCH 2 starts flashing
4. Push UP/ENTER to confirm that you want to edit pedal #1
5. Now, you’ll notice that pedals #1, #8, and #9 all have their LED’s activated. This means that pedal #1 has these MIDI functions already assigned to it. It is necessary to disable these MIDI functions before programming the FCB1010 to work properly with Live. So, to turn them off you must HOLD THE PEDAL DOWN UNTIL THE RED LED TURNS OFF. Do this for pedals #1, #8, and #9. Pedal #1 – which you’re editing – now has NO CC#’s or MIDI notes assigned to it.
6. Next, you have to assign a MIDI CC to pedal #1. Do this by holding down pedal #6 labelled CNT 1. Pedal #6’s LED should light up and stay on.
7. Push down pedal #6 so that its LED starts flashing.
8. Push UP/ENTER to confirm that you want to change the value for CNT 1.
9. A number should start flashing in the numeric display above the UP/ENTER pedal. This shows the current CC# number that pedal #1 is assigned to. For use with Live, this needs to be assigned to an undefined CC# which are CC#’s 22-31, and 84-90. For this example, let’s use CC#22, so enter this either by pressing the #2 pedal twice, or by using the Expression Controller A.
10. The numeric display should now read 22 and it should not be flashing. Press UP/ENTER to confirm this selection
11. Next, the numeric display should be flashing with a value. This is the velocity setting, which for our purposes you should set to 127 in the same manner described in step 9
12. The numeric display should now read 127 and it should not be flashing. Press UP/ENTER to confirm this selection. The LED for pedal #6 should stop flashing and remain lit.
13. The next step is to save the new settings. To do this, hold the DOWN/ESCAPE pedal until the Bank number appears in the numeric display, which in this case, should be 05. The LED for pedal #1 should remain lit.
14. The quickest way to confirm that the setting has been saved is to assign pedal #1 to a parameter in Live. So, assuming that you’ve already got Live open and your FCB1010 is connected, click on Live’s MIDI button in the top right hand corner.
15. Select a parameter to which you’d like to assign Pedal #1. In this example, let’s assign it to the record arm button of audio channel #1.
16. Press down on pedal #1. The number x/22 should appear on the record arm button where x represents the MIDI channel the data on which the FCB is transmitting on, most likely it’ll be channel 1, 2, or 3. Of main concern is that the number 22 – this is the CC number you’ve just programmed into pedal #1 on the FCB1010.
To assign the rest of the pedals, all you have to do is repeat steps 2 to 13. This is a bit time consuming but having been through it myself, it’s definitely worth the effort.
I haven’t yet explored assigning MIDI CC#’s to the expression pedals, although I’m sure that opportunity will present itself in the near future. And I’m 99.9% sure it’ll be done the same way as I’ve described above.
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Firstly, this guide assumes that your FCB1010 is fresh out of the box. If it isn’t just do a factory reset (…fortunately this is something that IS accurately explained in the FCB1010 manual).
It also assumes that you’ve connected the FCB1010 to you computer via a MIDI interface and have already set this up in Live’s MIDI preferences. Oh, and that the FCB1010 is powered on. ;p
A quick note, in the instructions PUSH refers to a quick push of the pedal, HOLD means hold the pedal down for about 2.5 seconds. Now, onto programming.
1. Select the bank to program by tapping the UP/ENTER or DOWN/ESCAPE pedals. In this example, let’s use Bank 05. Ensure that 05 appears in the numeric display
2. Select the pedal to assign a MIDI CC message to. Let’s use pedal #1. Pedal #1’s red LED should light up
3. Push the DOWN/ESCAPE pedal until the green LED for SWITCH 2 starts flashing
4. Push UP/ENTER to confirm that you want to edit pedal #1
5. Now, you’ll notice that pedals #1, #8, and #9 all have their LED’s activated. This means that pedal #1 has these MIDI functions already assigned to it. It is necessary to disable these MIDI functions before programming the FCB1010 to work properly with Live. So, to turn them off you must HOLD THE PEDAL DOWN UNTIL THE RED LED TURNS OFF. Do this for pedals #1, #8, and #9. Pedal #1 – which you’re editing – now has NO CC#’s or MIDI notes assigned to it.
6. Next, you have to assign a MIDI CC to pedal #1. Do this by holding down pedal #6 labelled CNT 1. Pedal #6’s LED should light up and stay on.
7. Push down pedal #6 so that its LED starts flashing.
8. Push UP/ENTER to confirm that you want to change the value for CNT 1.
9. A number should start flashing in the numeric display above the UP/ENTER pedal. This shows the current CC# number that pedal #1 is assigned to. For use with Live, this needs to be assigned to an undefined CC# which are CC#’s 22-31, and 84-90. For this example, let’s use CC#22, so enter this either by pressing the #2 pedal twice, or by using the Expression Controller A.
10. The numeric display should now read 22 and it should not be flashing. Press UP/ENTER to confirm this selection
11. Next, the numeric display should be flashing with a value. This is the velocity setting, which for our purposes you should set to 127 in the same manner described in step 9
12. The numeric display should now read 127 and it should not be flashing. Press UP/ENTER to confirm this selection. The LED for pedal #6 should stop flashing and remain lit.
13. The next step is to save the new settings. To do this, hold the DOWN/ESCAPE pedal until the Bank number appears in the numeric display, which in this case, should be 05. The LED for pedal #1 should remain lit.
14. The quickest way to confirm that the setting has been saved is to assign pedal #1 to a parameter in Live. So, assuming that you’ve already got Live open and your FCB1010 is connected, click on Live’s MIDI button in the top right hand corner.
15. Select a parameter to which you’d like to assign Pedal #1. In this example, let’s assign it to the record arm button of audio channel #1.
16. Press down on pedal #1. The number x/22 should appear on the record arm button where x represents the MIDI channel the data on which the FCB is transmitting on, most likely it’ll be channel 1, 2, or 3. Of main concern is that the number 22 – this is the CC number you’ve just programmed into pedal #1 on the FCB1010.
To assign the rest of the pedals, all you have to do is repeat steps 2 to 13. This is a bit time consuming but having been through it myself, it’s definitely worth the effort.
I haven’t yet explored assigning MIDI CC#’s to the expression pedals, although I’m sure that opportunity will present itself in the near future. And I’m 99.9% sure it’ll be done the same way as I’ve described above.
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LoopStationZebra
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Oh, and let's not forget the expression pedals!
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Say you wanted to edit an expression pedal of a patch. lets do patch
4 in bank 2. with 02 showing (means your in bank 2), hit pedal "4".
you just selected that patch. now hold "down" for a bit to enter
programming mode. Hold down the pedals that have lights lit until all
pedal lights are out. now hold down "8" until it is lit, then tap it
to make it flash. then hit up/enter to confirm you're about to edit
exp pedal "a" for this patch (exp. pedal b is controlled by "9" is
the same way exp pedal a is controlled by "8"). First select the
control change channel the pedal will send info on (1-127)--lets
choose 98--hit "9" then "8" then up/enter to confirm. Now another
number is flashing--this is the lowest range your pedal will send, if
we using this as a volume pedal, and we want it to go all the way to
silence, choose "00" here (by hitting "0" then "0"). if we want the
volume to not fully cut off when the pedal is fully back choose a
value higher, like 28. confirm your choice by pressing up/enter. now
yet another number appears--this is the upper range of the exp.
pedal. If we want to be able to go to full volume, choose 127 then
up/enter to confirm. NOw the "8" light should be lit. hold "down" to
exit programming mode, and were back to bank 02, patch 4. now when
you select patch 4 in bank 2 on the 1010 (by simply hittin "4" while
in bank 02) the exp pedal A is will send control change commands on
control change channel 98, when fully back the pedal will transmit a
signal of 28 (or whatever you chose), and when fully forward it will
send a value of 127 (max). It will smoothly glide between these two
values as you rock exp pedal a back and forth. now all thats left is
to tell Live what to do with this midi information. Goto edit midi
map in live, and click on a fader of a track. then hit your 1010
patch (just hit "4"). numbers should appear in Live. exit edit midi
map in live. now try rocking the exp pedal a back and forth while a
clip plays or while you play your intrument on that track--should act
as a volume pedal.
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Say you wanted to edit an expression pedal of a patch. lets do patch
4 in bank 2. with 02 showing (means your in bank 2), hit pedal "4".
you just selected that patch. now hold "down" for a bit to enter
programming mode. Hold down the pedals that have lights lit until all
pedal lights are out. now hold down "8" until it is lit, then tap it
to make it flash. then hit up/enter to confirm you're about to edit
exp pedal "a" for this patch (exp. pedal b is controlled by "9" is
the same way exp pedal a is controlled by "8"). First select the
control change channel the pedal will send info on (1-127)--lets
choose 98--hit "9" then "8" then up/enter to confirm. Now another
number is flashing--this is the lowest range your pedal will send, if
we using this as a volume pedal, and we want it to go all the way to
silence, choose "00" here (by hitting "0" then "0"). if we want the
volume to not fully cut off when the pedal is fully back choose a
value higher, like 28. confirm your choice by pressing up/enter. now
yet another number appears--this is the upper range of the exp.
pedal. If we want to be able to go to full volume, choose 127 then
up/enter to confirm. NOw the "8" light should be lit. hold "down" to
exit programming mode, and were back to bank 02, patch 4. now when
you select patch 4 in bank 2 on the 1010 (by simply hittin "4" while
in bank 02) the exp pedal A is will send control change commands on
control change channel 98, when fully back the pedal will transmit a
signal of 28 (or whatever you chose), and when fully forward it will
send a value of 127 (max). It will smoothly glide between these two
values as you rock exp pedal a back and forth. now all thats left is
to tell Live what to do with this midi information. Goto edit midi
map in live, and click on a fader of a track. then hit your 1010
patch (just hit "4"). numbers should appear in Live. exit edit midi
map in live. now try rocking the exp pedal a back and forth while a
clip plays or while you play your intrument on that track--should act
as a volume pedal.
thanks for the responses; with the help of this great forum i'll be up and running in no time.
UKruss, the vids were very helpful; i think it's the student not the teacher. i'll give it another go and PM you or email if i have a question. thanks again for the help!
LoopStationZebra, thanks for the post when I get back to my gear I'll give it a look.
eisnein, i've bee looking into the iFCB, seems very useful indeed. thanks!
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i've programmed bank 1 to send midi notes 1 through 10. i've also programmed the fcb to channel 13. ableton is still not reading it however. 
i have it daisy chained midi out to midi in of my axiom. the usb to my mac. the axiom is programmed to channel 13 also.
so i'm officially confused, but i will persevere
i have it daisy chained midi out to midi in of my axiom. the usb to my mac. the axiom is programmed to channel 13 also.
so i'm officially confused, but i will persevere
MBP 4GB, MOTU Traveler, APC40, Axiom 25, FCB 1010, Roland Fantom X6, Ableton Live 8.09, Logic Pro 8 (<>) (<>)
www.myspace.com/strangerprophecy
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This method is much much easier than LoopStationZebra's....highly recommended!eisnein wrote:after yearsssss if programming- this makes life so much easier!
http://www.wabbitwanch.com/iFCB.html
I don't know how it is on the Axiom, but on my UC-33 there are two "In"s... one for the actual controller, the second one for the MIDI in on the controller. Does the Axiom work that way also?
Is Ableton getting anything at all from the FCB1010? You can tell by looking to see if little lights come on in the upper right corner in Ableton whenever you press a pedal on the FCB1010.
If you are getting something from the FCB1010 into Ableton, then you're almost there. I have my FCB1010 setup to work with CC messages instead of notes. I don't remember why I chose this, but perhaps it would help you?
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LoopStationZebra
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rbanks wrote:i've programmed bank 1 to send midi notes 1 through 10. i've also programmed the fcb to channel 13. ableton is still not reading it however.
i have it daisy chained midi out to midi in of my axiom. the usb to my mac. the axiom is programmed to channel 13 also.
so i'm officially confused, but i will persevere
Hmm. Is anything happening at all on Live's end? When you press a pedal, are you at least getting a MIDI track in signal in Live? Did you set up your MIDI port prefs correctly in Live?
i not getting anything when i press the pedal. i can midi map my axion keys/knobs etc. just fine but nothing from the FCB.???
My MIDI prefs in live are:
preferences/midi sync/ control surface Axiom/input Axiom USB/output Axiom USB
My MIDI prefs in live are:
preferences/midi sync/ control surface Axiom/input Axiom USB/output Axiom USB
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uhoh it's mapping it now...
thank you for the support, i'll continue to work on it
thank you for the support, i'll continue to work on it
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Just as an additional tip, try using a different midi channel for each peripheral, otherwise you may end be playing on the axiom and it will inadvertently command live to do something as you had it mapped from the FCB using the same note.rbanks wrote:i've programmed bank 1 to send midi notes 1 through 10. i've also programmed the fcb to channel 13. ableton is still not reading it however.
i have it daisy chained midi out to midi in of my axiom. the usb to my mac. the axiom is programmed to channel 13 also.
so i'm officially confused, but i will persevere
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friend_kami
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just thought id drop by to say that i did a pretty sweet looping station with my fcb, bomes midi translator and some keyboard maps.
basicly it cycles through the tracks with one pedal, records with one/plays back the newly recorded layer, one pdal stops all clips, and then i have 5 pedals for stopping/playing the 5 different layers.
it can also layer things up on any scene, aswell as syncing to tempo. you can record both external inputs and native instrument devices, vsts and whatever you want byt just touring them through one track and it will layer it up as you want. also, since the input bus is separated you have one bus for a master fx, and then all the layers can have their own designated fx settings aswell. pretty sweet. so far its been rock solid aswell
take a look: http://www.bome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=5284#5284
heres how its set up:
goign to add some navigational controls etc eventually, but its quite useless for me since i use my hercules for that. but i will, eventually.
i know its quite late seeing how live 8 is around the corner,w hat with looper and everything but hey. i just got my fcb 2 days ago and i needed a live loop solution right this very moment
basicly it cycles through the tracks with one pedal, records with one/plays back the newly recorded layer, one pdal stops all clips, and then i have 5 pedals for stopping/playing the 5 different layers.
it can also layer things up on any scene, aswell as syncing to tempo. you can record both external inputs and native instrument devices, vsts and whatever you want byt just touring them through one track and it will layer it up as you want. also, since the input bus is separated you have one bus for a master fx, and then all the layers can have their own designated fx settings aswell. pretty sweet. so far its been rock solid aswell
take a look: http://www.bome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=5284#5284
heres how its set up:
goign to add some navigational controls etc eventually, but its quite useless for me since i use my hercules for that. but i will, eventually.
i know its quite late seeing how live 8 is around the corner,w hat with looper and everything but hey. i just got my fcb 2 days ago and i needed a live loop solution right this very moment