Guitar players, spew your wisdom on tone here

Jekblad · Post by **Jekblad** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:25 pm

i'm not a stompbox guy, always "needed" tube distortion in my ears.

i've never played some of the nicer tube distortion boxes, which i'd be totally open to, just never got around to testing them.

the sound of the Line 6 X3 was *pretty much* ok for me, just the on-stage monitoring that was not good

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:33 pm

distortion pedals aren't the only types of pedals that exist, you know

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and on and on and on and on...

Jekblad · Post by **Jekblad** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:43 pm

i hate you for all your damn gear.

joeyfivecents · Post by **joeyfivecents** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:28 am

been using logic's guitar amp pro and NI guitar combos. Live, there's still nothing like a tube amp. I still use a little Fender Pro Junior. 15 watt tube amp with volume and tone knobs. that's it. just turn it up. it's incredible.

Simbosan · Post by **Simbosan** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:53 am

One thing that rarely gets any mention at all is the physical feedback effect from a live amp. You will never, ever, achieve that with a simulator. So for recording, live amps will always feel more alive... Your guitar resonates and responds to its own sound a LOT and you will miss that in all sorts of both obvious (feedback/sustaion) and subliminal (harmonic) ways.

Having said that I use a Pod for recording, it's good enuff for rock'n'roll, it's farty at the bottom end like every non-valve system I have ever tried. I have never tried Guitar Rig, it does look tempting but the Pod can be unplugged from the PC and taken to a rehearsal studio and plugged straight into a PA, bingo...

My proper amp is an original Marshal 6120 20w Treble and Bass head. And yeah, it's still to fkn loud to ever use at home, and I'm always being told to turn the effing thing down at rehearsals!

Anyone care to compare Guitar Rig to the Pod?

S

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:40 am

Simbosan wrote:
Anyone care to compare Guitar Rig to the Pod?

S

I can get great sounds out of Guitar Rig, I think Line 6 stuff sounds like shit.

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:55 am

sparklepuff wrote:
Simbosan wrote:
Anyone care to compare Guitar Rig to the Pod?

S
I can get great sounds out of Guitar Rig, I think Line 6 stuff sounds like shit.

Me = the opposite of what he said

Simbosan · Post by **Simbosan** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:56 am

Lol =)

What else should I have expected heh

S

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:00 am

Guitar players are some of the pickiest people on the planet (pun intended). Asking a guitar player about tone is like asking a painter what the best color is. Too many individual variables in gear and playing styles to really make it a worthwhile question.

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:01 am

Tarekith wrote:Guitar players are some of the pickiest people on the planet (pun intended). Asking a guitar player about tone is like asking a painter what the best color is. Too many individual variables in gear and playing styles to really make it a worthwhile question.

You like Joe Satriani, so I rest my case.

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:18 am

What do you mean?

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:23 am

That's some of the worst sounding garbage I've ever heard in my life.

If he, Steve Vai, Eric Johnson, and Yngwie Malmsteen were all to quit playing music right this second, it would be a very good day for the world of music.

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:26 am

Well I can see your point fwiw. There's definitely times that it's a real wank fest for sure. I was more into when i was just getting into guitar than I am now, and a lot of those guys (well, maybe not ymemwie whatever) were a lot more experimental then too. I don't really listen to it these days. I thought it would be cool to check out the new Vai CD a couple weeks back and see what he'd been up to, but it was a real struggle to make it all the way through.

Simbosan · Post by **Simbosan** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:07 am

sparklepuff wrote:
Tarekith wrote:Guitar players are some of the pickiest people on the planet (pun intended). Asking a guitar player about tone is like asking a painter what the best color is. Too many individual variables in gear and playing styles to really make it a worthwhile question.
You like Joe Satriani, so I rest my case.

Yeah well, way to be unpleasant and judgemental. Fwiw, I can't stand them myself and Yngwie should have been shot before he could ever mentioned JS Bach, sullying the sublime with the ridiculous BUT I recognise that as an opinion.

So I call your PoD-Satriani diss and raise you a Pod-Junior Brown/Knopfler/Chet Atkins/Buddy Merrill (ok I'm semi jokin about Mr Merrill =). But only semi, he got some gorgeous sounds, tho his music is in questionable taste sometimes/mostly

I have never used the Pod as a Vai/Satriani box, I think it does a credible clean sound with the black panel setting. I don't even have an X-3 (yet) and I find it very useable. I would like to try Guitar Rig tho, wonder if they do a demo...

EDIT: Downloading demo now, play time!

Could this be the start of a GRig/Pod war? ooh! Let's start a thread to match the Windows/Mac war.

S

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:16 am

Junior Brown plays a POD? #$%^~!!! I'm not into his CDs but live that guy is a GOD.

Pod
- ZERO latency
- does NOT glitch
- does NOT go into sleep mode
- cheaper than a laptop
- stronger than a laptop