[heh] - Plug-in Latency
[heh] - Plug-in Latency
XP SP2 - Live 8 Beta 11
Compared with Live 7.0.14, plug-in latency has increased quite a bit with Live 8 Beta 11.
Whereas, with my current set up, VST instruments and Live Plugins (i.e. Operator, etc.) were playable (with Axiom MIDI controller) with almost unnoticeable latency on Live 7, the latency has increased so that it's "unplayable", on the same exact Live set, with Live 8 Beta 11.
Compared with Live 7.0.14, plug-in latency has increased quite a bit with Live 8 Beta 11.
Whereas, with my current set up, VST instruments and Live Plugins (i.e. Operator, etc.) were playable (with Axiom MIDI controller) with almost unnoticeable latency on Live 7, the latency has increased so that it's "unplayable", on the same exact Live set, with Live 8 Beta 11.
Hi,
Can you make sure you have the same settings as in Live 7:
- In the Preferences, Audio tab, for the buffer size, and Driver error Compensation. (basically look at the overall latency).
- In the Preferences, CPU tab, for the Plugin Buffer Size.
If you've got the same settings: do you get the problem with any plugin, or only some?
Regards,
Amaury
Can you make sure you have the same settings as in Live 7:
- In the Preferences, Audio tab, for the buffer size, and Driver error Compensation. (basically look at the overall latency).
- In the Preferences, CPU tab, for the Plugin Buffer Size.
If you've got the same settings: do you get the problem with any plugin, or only some?
Regards,
Amaury
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I am having a similar issue but in my case only when my virus ti control plugin is in the session. You don't happen to use a virus ti desktop or anything do you?
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kenporter wrote:I am having a similar issue but in my case only when my virus ti control plugin is in the session. You don't happen to use a virus ti desktop or anything do you?
I am using a virus ti as well and i am now having latency issues. It will record on time but when I play the virus it is mad behind! And now my time line indicator and meters are reacting a full two bars behind what I hear! If I turn delay comp off my meters bounce on time again but everything sounds out of time. I just built a new machine and ironically that was when I moved to version 3 of the virus control software. Should I roll back? I love os3 and will miss it greatly though:( Has anyone found out how to deal with this? Thanks in advance for any attempt to help me...I really don't want to go back to using Nuendo I just love writing in Live its like an extension of your body...but mines sick unfortunately.
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Re: [heh] - Plug-in Latency
I am having issues with Virus Control in beta 20. A set that works with next to no latency in 7.0.14 is unusable in 8. When the VC plugin is in use all of live is affected by the latency. When monitoring an input it is very latent. When disabling delay compensation the latency goes away. Live 7 does not perform this way. Identical settings in both versions of live.
Core i7 920 @ 3.54ghz
Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD3R
3GB Corsair Dominator
RME Multiface @ 64 samples (5.06ms round trip)
Virus TI Desktop OS 3.0.1.06 (as audio buffer)
Live 8b20
Core i7 920 @ 3.54ghz
Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD3R
3GB Corsair Dominator
RME Multiface @ 64 samples (5.06ms round trip)
Virus TI Desktop OS 3.0.1.06 (as audio buffer)
Live 8b20
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Re: [heh] - Plug-in Latency
Hi,
please make sure you are using ASIO drivers with your RME card and better try the latest stable driver release for your Virus TI (2.7.5).
thanks and best regards
Henrik
please make sure you are using ASIO drivers with your RME card and better try the latest stable driver release for your Virus TI (2.7.5).
thanks and best regards
Henrik
Re: [heh] - Plug-in Latency
Yes I'm using asio drivers with my RME. Like I said, the exact same set works perfectly in live 7. I have tried in live 8 with 2.7.5 as well. Same result.
Re: [heh] - Plug-in Latency
Hi,
I have also come across this problem, in my experience there are serious latency issues with the Access Virus and Ableton 8 beta.
i have a mic line in through a Fireface, and when the TI plugin is present(even on another track), a very noticeable delay is introduced...
I have also come across this problem, in my experience there are serious latency issues with the Access Virus and Ableton 8 beta.
i have a mic line in through a Fireface, and when the TI plugin is present(even on another track), a very noticeable delay is introduced...
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Re: [heh] - Plug-in Latency
Hi lukas412,
its not only the question of loading the same set. Please check in Lives Preferences if all Buffer Settings are the same as in Live 7 (Loading a Live Set does not affect Buffer settings in the preferences)
Try an Audio Buffer Size of your choice and set the Plugin Buffer Size to: 'As Audio Buffer'. This works fine here and the Virus does not produce a higher latency as in Live 7.
its not only the question of loading the same set. Please check in Lives Preferences if all Buffer Settings are the same as in Live 7 (Loading a Live Set does not affect Buffer settings in the preferences)
Try an Audio Buffer Size of your choice and set the Plugin Buffer Size to: 'As Audio Buffer'. This works fine here and the Virus does not produce a higher latency as in Live 7.
Re: [heh] - Plug-in Latency
Yes I am positive the settings are the same in both live 7 and live 8. That was of course the first thing I checked.Henrik Hahn wrote:Hi lukas412,
its not only the question of loading the same set. Please check in Lives Preferences if all Buffer Settings are the same as in Live 7 (Loading a Live Set does not affect Buffer settings in the preferences)
Try an Audio Buffer Size of your choice and set the Plugin Buffer Size to: 'As Audio Buffer'. This works fine here and the Virus does not produce a higher latency as in Live 7.
Luke
Re: [heh] - Plug-in Latency
Ok a little more detail.
Virus control on chan 1, external input on chan 2 with mpc running into it.
delay comp on - virus latency feels ok, input from mpc is very latent.
delay comp off - virus latency feels ok, inputs from mpc are not latent.
In the above running live 8b21, virus control 2.7.5
soft reset the virus.
cleared prefs.cfg in live.
RME Asio drivers set to 64 samples.
use audio buffer for pluigins in live.
Virus control is working fantastic in live 7.
Thanks,
Luke
Virus control on chan 1, external input on chan 2 with mpc running into it.
delay comp on - virus latency feels ok, input from mpc is very latent.
delay comp off - virus latency feels ok, inputs from mpc are not latent.
In the above running live 8b21, virus control 2.7.5
soft reset the virus.
cleared prefs.cfg in live.
RME Asio drivers set to 64 samples.
use audio buffer for pluigins in live.
Virus control is working fantastic in live 7.
Thanks,
Luke
Re: [heh] - Plug-in Latency
I'm happy now,
for me, this one appears to have been solved!
thanks!
for me, this one appears to have been solved!
thanks!