creating dubby sounds?

-art- · Post by **-art-** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:51 am

how do you create the dubby sounds in dub-tech and ambient dub techno, like the sound of thinner, silent season, its like chords twanging away but its all drenched in fx... i love that sound...

is there any book out there on dub fx techniques or something? can this be done with virtual instruments>?

maybe this is the wrong forum, is there a technical forum out there devoted to this sound/style?

i really would love to create this type of music

what soft synths are best to use?

best,

COSM · Post by **COSM** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:43 am

Hey Bro,

I use this plugin quite a lot

www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/BionicDelay/

Another good way is to have your sound send to a return channel, and have a delay with autofilter sweeping after the delay.

The true masters of this sound however are Pitch Black, check their in depth tutorial video, the second half they go into how they create their amazing dubbed out sounds

www.pitchblack.co.nz/?s1=downloads&s2=abletonlive

optimistic · Post by **optimistic** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:23 am

There's also a production section on the dubstep boards that you might find interesting.

Do a forum search here as well as I seem to remember a good dub thread a while back.

http://www.dubstepforum.com/index.php

rbro · Post by **rbro** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:37 am

In terms of plugins, check out Camel Space also..........

http://www.camelaudio.com/camelspace.php

pepezabala · Post by **pepezabala** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:13 am

I would try bizarre combinations of presets and routings of resonator - delays - autofilter - reverbs.

Trypset · Post by **Trypset** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:27 am

how would you set up the autofilter to do the above???

I can't seem to twist my head around it, the only use I've been getting from the autofilters is if I manually tweak them. I'm sure I'm missing something on how to make it sweep by itself. Please enlighten.

Lux Libra · Post by **Lux Libra** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:10 am

Trypset wrote:I'm sure I'm missing something on how to make it sweep by itself. Please enlighten.

use the lfo section of the autofilter.
page 286 in the manual

-art- · Post by **-art-** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:54 am

thx everyone great advice!

found the thread

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?t=93738

optimistic · Post by **optimistic** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:07 am

I also love the Dubstation plug-in by Audiodamage (http://www.audiodamage.com). Good plug at a good price.

Thanks for finding the thread, might go through it again after work.

COSM · Post by **COSM** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:26 pm

Trypset wrote:how would you set up the autofilter to do the above???

I can't seem to twist my head around it, the only use I've been getting from the autofilters is if I manually tweak them. I'm sure I'm missing something on how to make it sweep by itself. Please enlighten.

Add an autofilter after a delay, and bring the "Amount" knob up, in the top right hand corner, and drag the cutoff value down to about half way.

The amount knob tells the cutoff to sweep up and down, how fast depending on the rate knob (below the amount knob).

tw1nstates · Post by **tw1nstates** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:45 pm

http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... chive.html

Sends arew your friends.

Delay into a amp sim into a verb is a good one,

verb into amp sim into phaser also good.

Automate send levels etc

Lux Libra · Post by **Lux Libra** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:31 pm

e-pianos are good for those dubby chords. Of course in conjunction with
effect chains like the ones posted before. Also a big + on sends. Jam those
send knobs !

i also use live's operator with quite good results in those dubtechno sounds.

-Use 2 or more Osc's, all FM modulating each other downwards c->b->a (start with moderate FM amounts - read levels of modulators)

-first OSC A Envelope a slightly decaying curve. Coarse 1
-second OSC B Envelope a bit more attack but less decay than OSC A to get it more percussive. Coarse even numbers. but adjust fine tune to get it slightly "off" tune.
- third OSC C -> experiment but it will change sound dramatically

all this gets bandpass! filtered with good amount of resonance
of course, all of that goes into echoes, reverbs, distortions, bitcrusher, etc..

this is only a start. have fun and tinker those dials

Trypset · Post by **Trypset** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:27 pm

GREAT information......the nicest people always respond to DUB topics...

Thanks for the good vibes and techniques.

Keep em coming.

I like to send a track to a return, then up the returns send knob to itself creating a feedback type situation. Be careful as it can be harmful to ears and speaks.

-art- · Post by **-art-** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:58 am

m:o wrote:e-pianos are good for those dubby chords. Of course in conjunction with
effect chains like the ones posted before. Also a big + on sends. Jam those
send knobs !

i also use live's operator with quite good results in those dubtechno sounds.

-Use 2 or more Osc's, all FM modulating each other downwards c->b->a (start with moderate FM amounts - read levels of modulators)

-first OSC A Envelope a slightly decaying curve. Coarse 1
-second OSC B Envelope a bit more attack but less decay than OSC A to get it more percussive. Coarse even numbers. but adjust fine tune to get it slightly "off" tune.
- third OSC C -> experiment but it will change sound dramatically

all this gets bandpass! filtered with good amount of resonance
of course, all of that goes into echoes, reverbs, distortions, bitcrusher, etc..

this is only a start. have fun and tinker those dials

thx heaps

Lux Libra · Post by **Lux Libra** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:55 am

/cheers