Stutter effect?

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deanc2000
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Stutter effect?

Post by deanc2000 » Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:15 pm

I haven't found a straight forward way of introducing a stutter effect on Samples. What I've found to do is find the areas in the sample you'd want a stutter. In the session view, make a copy the sample and move the Begin pointer to that area, to make it begin there from the previous sample, then hold the start button down a few times to stutter the beginning of that part.

Is there an easier way.

I've also tried Copyshop, and Glitch. These VST's don't actually stop the sample playing while the stutter is performed. There is the stutter, but the sample continues to play while the stutter is performed. So if it's a prolonged stutter, then after the stutter, the sample will be at a later point and NOT where the stutter occurred. This is NOT what I want to happen.

Dean.
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Re: Stutter effect?

Post by Thomas » Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:31 pm

holding the start buttong doesnt get you a lot

the timing will be messed up if you continue playing that way, you should just copy paste the beginning of the sample, and then on after that wich plays the sample as a whole

in a live situation, i wouldnt know

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Re: Stutter effect?

Post by john gordon » Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:06 pm

i always just add many more plugins that my computer can handle and i get a really good glitch in my playback,also if u pick up your computer about 15 inches off the ground and drop it you can get a pretty cool effect...

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Re: Stutter effect?

Post by Superchibisan » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:34 am

im sure the effect you're looking for can be achieved with simpler or sampler.

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Re: Stutter effect?

Post by Tone Deft » Sat Mar 07, 2009 4:23 am

assign one knob to global quantize, assign another knob to a clip's launch button.

or do the same with scene select and track launch to get to any clip.

twist and tweak aw-w-w-w-w-way.
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Re: Stutter effect?

Post by moodles » Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:31 pm

How about creating a stutter effect with the clip offset envelope?

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Re: Stutter effect?

Post by Tone Deft » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:03 pm

that's destructive to the clip and difficult to return to the '1' when you do it.

traditionally people do it by starting the loop over and over again with a quantized launch.

edit - maybe if the start marker was at the start it would be easy to leave the loop unmolested when you were done, I'll try it later.
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Re: Stutter effect?

Post by moodles » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:05 pm

I don't understand why messing around with the offset envelope would be destructive to the clip. All you need to do is click "Clear Envelope" to return to orignal sound. Also, the offset envelope doesn't actually do anything to the clip itself, it just moves around the playback location.

You can make as many copies of the clip as you need, all with different envelopes for different results.

In order to get it back to 1, just make sure that the offset loop is equal to whole measure lengths or at least full beat lengths.

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Re: Stutter effect?

Post by Tone Deft » Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:01 am

exactly, it's sloppy.

did you try setting one knob to global quantize, another to a clip lauch button?
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Re: Stutter effect?

Post by pip » Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:27 am

Go into session view, and turn on Loop mode. Make a blank loop one bar long, and then place a locator at the beginning of it. Map the locator to a key on your keyboard/midi controller. Set your global quantize amount to whatever you want to be able to stutter at, and then you can stutter by repeatedly mashing your mapped key. Since you're in a short loop, you are passing this locator every 4 beats, which means you can easily stutter at any point in the song. Add a few other locators within this loop and you can do some mad breakdowns, etc.

While I was working this out tonight, I kept getting the the orange "D" (disk warning) unless I ran the clip from RAM. Your results may vary.

Advanced: Place a locator outside the loop (for example, at the 4th bar) and throw a Beat Repeat* on your track. When you want to stutter your track, turn on your Beat Repeat and jump to this outside locator. When you're done stuttering and wrecking shit, jump back to your 1st locator, turn off your Beat Repeat, and you'll pick up right where you left off!

* Have the Beat Repeat in Insert Mode with Gate and Interval at the same value. Adjust grid to desired stutter length. Map "Repeat" button to a key/controller so you can lock the part of the sample you want to stutter.

Hope I explained this properly!

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Re: Stutter effect?

Post by deanc2000 » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:42 pm

Hi PIP,

Thanks for the info, but it all sounds very complicated. I've only been working with Ableton Live 7 for 1 month, so I'm still very much a beginner. Is your procedure in 7 or 8?. Can you show me how to do it using Screen captures? Can you make a youtube video showing how it's done? Thanks so much for your effort, I've been doing it "manually" up till now.

Dean.

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Re: Stutter effect?

Post by deanc2000 » Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:34 pm

Specifically, how do you make a blank loop? I've never done that before.

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Re: Stutter effect?

Post by pip » Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:47 am

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(The track I used to test this with was The Rockafeller Skank by Fatboy Slim; a perfect example of the abuses of the stutter effect.)

Okay, I hope this explains it a bit better. Click on the Loop Switch to enable looping. To the left and right of the Loop Switch are numbers for the Start Point and Loop Length. Set these as shown, to 1.1.1 and 1.0.0. This makes a one bar loop.

When I said "blank loop" I mean that you don't have any clips in Arrangement View. Our whole performance will be in Session View.

Right-click in the Scrub Area and choose Add Locator. Drag that locator all the way to the beginning as shown. (It's the small triangle just below the loop brace.) Map this locator to a key on your keyboard or to a midi controller.

(Dangit, I left the Computer MIDI Keyboard on in this screenshot. Turn that off with CTRL-SHIFT-K. It'll make mapping easier.)

Change your Global Quantize from 1 Bar to something shorter, feel free to set it to None.

Tab back to Session View, and start playing your clip. Tap your mapped key/controller and you can instantly stutter back to beginning of the most recently played bar. In clip view, I suggest clicking on the RAM button for your sample; I kept getting disk warnings.

If you like, add and map more locators within this loop, and you can jump around to the different beats to stutter and mash your sample.

Let me know if I'm still being unclear!
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Re: Stutter effect?

Post by pepezabala » Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:14 am

great ideas from all of you!

for stuttering I would use the effect called beat repeat. Set it chance to 0, and assign the big repeat button to a button on your midicontroller or keyboard. adjust to taste.

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Re: Stutter effect?

Post by deanc2000 » Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:27 pm

PiP,

How would you record it? Just hit the record button? Where would the audio be written in the Arrangement view after the recording?

Dean.

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