Where does Ableton just not cut it?

PLacidBasilisk · Post by **PLacidBasilisk** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:49 am

I'm interested to hear in what cases the majority of people resort to vsts and third-party effects when the built-in Ableton components just don't cut it. I've heard a lot of people complain that Ableton's reverb is sub-standard and I wonder if anyone feels the same about any of Live's other effects. Also, are there any KEY elements to your mix that Live doesn't even cater for?

pepezabala · Post by **pepezabala** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:06 am

- amp simulation. guitar rig or a pod give me faster convincing results than tweaking live's efx.

- looper (but this will be resolved with live

- limiter (again, will be in live

- multiband compression (and again, will be in live

8O · Post by 8O » Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:08 am

Live

FTW!

pepezabala · Post by **pepezabala** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:09 am

i actually wrote live 8, but the brackets give me this smiley ...

beatpoet · Post by **beatpoet** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:41 pm

I think Live

is a much better name
Can't wait for Live

ark · Post by **ark** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:51 pm

I want to create a single MIDI file with multiple channels in it, so that I can upload it into a hardware sequencer that demands such a file. I can read these files in Live with no problem, but as far as I can tell, there is no way to export more than a single channel at a time as a separate MIDI file.

Jekblad · Post by **Jekblad** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:01 pm

i will just agree that using live to process a guitar is not fun. I'm beta testing 8, and the overdrive is TOTALLY a step up, but still not an awesome guitar tone making machine.

As in, it won't replace guitar rig or similar.

Pasha · Post by **Pasha** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:24 pm

Jekblad wrote:i will just agree that using live to process a guitar is not fun. I'm beta testing 8, and the overdrive is TOTALLY a step up, but still not an awesome guitar tone making machine.

As in, it won't replace guitar rig or similar.

...And it won't possibly be there in the future IMHO.

Pasha · Post by **Pasha** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:25 pm

ark wrote:I want to create a single MIDI file with multiple channels in it, so that I can upload it into a hardware sequencer that demands such a file. I can read these files in Live with no problem, but as far as I can tell, there is no way to export more than a single channel at a time as a separate MIDI file.

This really sucks...

Geebag · Post by **Geebag** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:28 pm

As a graphic design program

logic_user99 · Post by **logic_user99** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:28 pm

MIDI in general, IMO. Trying to automate Battery 3 is a frickin' nightmare...

condra · Post by **condra** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:34 pm

IMO Ableton need to focus on the core usability of the programme. We need workflow improvements, not more toys.

logic_user99 · Post by **logic_user99** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:48 pm

condra wrote:IMO Ableton need to focus on the core usability of the programme. We need workflow improvements, not more toys.

+1 (although the 'looper' is going to solve MANY problems for me... LIVE DRUM LOOPS!)

cacti · Post by **cacti** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:16 pm

I WANT TO VIEW TWO WAVE FORMS AT THE SAME TIME, IS IT THAT HARD?

SolutionG · Post by **SolutionG** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:16 pm

cacti wrote:I WANT TO VIEW TWO WAVE FORMS AT THE SAME TIME, IS IT THAT HARD?

+1. This could even be implemented in track groups where there is a button in the mixer that sends the waveform view to the "group master" waveform window, where it can be stacked vertically, or split horizontally. I'm sure the Serato partnership will probably bring something like this about.

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