After beta testing for some time-Will you upgrade to Live 8?

[sleepwalkermusic]

Best update yet. I paid for 5, 6, 7, and soon (8). In retrospect, 6 didn't get me anything new and 7 didn't get me much.

[Jekblad]

moving to suite.

need the looper for live shows

[n0nce]

Now the dust has settled, and you have had time to check out the Beta...
Will you be upgrading to Live 8?

Personally, I have mixed feelings about this new release.

That's to be expected from a dumb cunt like yourself.

[ashtonron]

I am waiting to see what special packs are available including Max for live and maybe the apc40

[Dexes]

Deffinatly upgrading! Suite this time. With Analog, operator & sampler I havn't touched reason for weeks now. I miss scream though, but overdrive has at least compensated for a bit of that.

With the APC i hope to be able to cut down on the scene count which is pretty high as the Remote Zero SL autormap only has a scene fire and not individual clips (though mapping 8 buttons manually as track lauch for 8 tracks is more usefull now with group tracks)

controling volume on multiple tracks is also a small but really nice addition.
And I love the new warping method!

[Emissary]

i would say definitely if they hadnt fupped up with the new authorizing system, which is ridiculous, you have to unlock live 8 twice on the same computer if you want to disable/ enable you network card, genius. Bah..Still getting it anyway.

[audiofeen]

I'm selfishly hoping that they release it before it's ready as I'm just getting made redundant and soon won't be able to afford to upgrade.

man am feeling ya there got made redundant the week before they announced live 8, max, and the apc40..... so had a bit of money then
so i bought the apc thinking maybe only a few weeks for it still not out yet.... hope it's not going to be to much longer for the uk release...

live 8 still needs a lot of work, though i will buy the upgrade as soon as it comes out however i wont be able to trust for live shows as it's still going to need more testing and bug fixes as everything is a work in progress these days....
but i love the new features.....

lets get rid of the bugs and get back to making tunes

[channelite]

I have the APC 40 on order, so yes.

[glenn303]

Definitely yes!

[SubFunk]

Yes!

Selecting more than one track at a time and adjusting several parameters of the same kind, eg volume does it already.

[Pasha]

Yes.
Main 5 reasons for me are:

1. New Operator
2. Multiband Dynamic
3. Latin Percussion
4. Group Tracks
5. General Workflow enhancements

[REkz]

Just installed 8b17beta @ 11pm.

Here's what I notice off the bat (first 15 min's):

A lot of percentage ranges seem to go from 0 to 200%. Does that really make sense?!?!? Why not max at 100%? This reminds me of amps that go to '11'. HA HA

WARPING -- whoa. I already read about it in the forums. True, it doesn't work the same at all. Harsh for users of Live for years now, no? Instead of markers moving around wavs, my wavs now flow around the markers. I don't like this. Should be an option -- wave warps to markers, or markers move around waves. Or maybe a preference. (My Opinion.)
Warping does really weird thing to my vocal beat 'beats' warp I quickly made. It seesm to have added a duplicate wave bit. Strange.

Colors -- nice to have, nice to have more, but to me not that important. More colors. Wow. Yawn. renaminging my samples is important, but the colors is not a huge deal for me.
Just noticed -- the fonts don't show up on dark colors! Ooops! Think they need an 'invert font color' checkbox.

Also tried changing theme -- nothing has light colored text. Is that a coding flaw? Why go 'midnight' if you can't read any samples?!?!? Add option to invert colored fonts!

Vocoder -- always wanted one. Don't think it was this one. Doesn't do what I want. Ran thru the presets. No 'sound like a robot' preset, no 'play music with voice' option. Maybe this exists as a rack? (Should be a RACK then.) Feels more like a fancy equalizer. I'd rather see different options for tweaking, like a knob moving from 'male - female' vocal qualities, or 'high voice - low voice' (pitch shift), alien, robot, etc. Or at least some presets like that. Formant( is this a musical term?) is a strange option name (why not frequency), etc. Hey, just saw that you can adjust "gate, bands, range, level' from the chart, etc.
The changeability here is not clear -- but with some tweaks, it sounds better. Sorta.

Multiband Dynamics -- I think this is what I was asking for ages ago w/mastermix fix. Looks like a way to master my Live mix better and get a punchy final track. Haven't fine tuned, just a first impression. Older versions of Ableton seem to need more punch on final mix. (My friends use Bias Peak, or some just add more compression to final out.) I read about eq'ing out all non-audible frequencies on each track. Have tried. Didn't seem to do much for me.

Limiter -- actually a compression / gain / limiter. Another much needed thing in Ableton -- compression that doesn't ever spike to red! So I added it to my vocal beats, and took myself right up near the red. Then later I was tweaking the actual wave form, dramatically raised gain on original loop -- happy to see I did not redline, and the audio quality of the beatbox shifted w/o blowing out the gain. GOOD EFFECT ... wrong name. Call it NOBLOWOUT. HA HA

Looper -- is this like 8 instances of 'triggers' from a modular audio system? FL Studio or similar? Another strange GUI. Did not work when I set to resample my audio beat from another track. Will have to play with it.

Can't get Audio Effect Racks to load onto any tracks.

Frequency Shifter -- overdue. Looks nice. Yep, I love it. Basic, but needed to move out of sample tweaking section. But I still see transpose is an option there. I was surprised on older Liver versions that playing back and 'tweaking' transpose (from Sample edit) gave me a ton of transposed - separate - mini-clips. This is a good fix!

Spectrum - Love this utility from v7, but needs a bunch of enhancements... like... in addition to breaking up spectrum blocks, why not color code each track and show them overlaid? Add and remove different tracks? What about phase issues? While I like this, it doesn't seem to clearly show accurately when my tracks are completely 'off' certain bandwidths.
My fav 3rd party plugin is a 3D audio simulation which shows sort of where my frequences are coming from at different points (IXL Stereo Analyzer).
I added Spectrum to the Master Track. Clicked on another track & it goes away!! Aaaaggghghhh. I was hoping that would end in v8 (or sooner). There's NO WAY to get an effect to stay viewable while viewing other tracks?!?!? Should be an option selection for any/all effects that we'd like to tweak on the fly -- a 'keep visible' checkbox or 'add to visible' track fx or something? I like that all pieces of vst effects are tweakable in V8 for plugins -- but still hard to find the pieces (for me?).

Overall, sound is clearer than I recall on v5 or v7. Sounds crisper.

Will be investigating further, but thought I'd notify first impressions.

Would I upgrade??? Hmmm... Probably not for awhile. Frankly, I was blown away by Ableton 4, wound up buying v5 which had some cool stuff, and with v7 I felt I might have more than I needed on-board (but I wanted EIC so I did it). Not sure about v8. So I'm not sure at this point. I really like the motif of SIMPLE.
For me, Ableton v7 is more complex in many ways than what I might want.

** Ableton programming geniuses, have you considered making more and more modules that work with all versions of Ableton Live? Maybe 'finalizing' a framework for awhile? Maybe even release source code for other developers, that kind of thing? That might be another way of expanding your business ... rather than redoing the whole framework when the original framework was already quite robust AND fun. Just an idea.*

THANKS - PEACE - Ari = rekzkarz = rekz

[ashtonron]

** Ableton programming geniuses, have you considered making more and more modules that work with all versions of Ableton Live? Maybe 'finalizing' a framework for awhile? Maybe even release source code for other developers, that kind of thing? That might be another way of expanding your business ... rather than redoing the whole framework when the original framework was already quite robust AND fun. Just an idea.*

I think that is what Max for live is all about

[skipkent]

Can't say that I'll buy it, but group tracks are great. Finally have a place to store those alternate takes. Multiple select is nice too.

Is that true about re-setting the network card and having to re-authorize? That's bad if true. Should hope they'd fix that before releasing.

[audiofeen]

i would say definitely if they hadnt fupped up with the new authorizing system, which is ridiculous, you have to unlock live 8 twice on the same computer if you want to disable/ enable you network card, genius. Bah..Still getting it anyway.

is this on pc? seems a bit stupid for sure.
when i was using pc doing a live show by myself i'd have it disabled to save resources.
think it's not the same on mac though as i have turned on and off my wireless card a good few times and plugged in the Ethernet
for networking 2 laptops and had no problems....