What is best workflow to remix entire song?

[FrankBlack]

I would like to remix entire song and want to know how others do this. I was thinking that first I would slice up song in arrangement view into parts (chorus, verse1, verse2), and put into session view, then for each part fix beat markers and add other scenes. Is this the way to do it? Also I was wondering if anyone that has used 8 knows if warping has been improved? The beat detection doesn't ever work the first time in 7.
Thanks,
FB

[drumrak]

you seem incredibly lazy and uninspired.

[necho]

"I'd really like to make some great music.

Please tell me how."

[COSM]

Hi Mate,

My process is to first create a new audio track in arranggment view for each of the samples I have been given, chuck them in, warp them and just have a general listen. Then I will start cutting those samples I have up into loops and hits, and identify the best BPM and key to do the remix in.

Once everything is chopped, I put everything far down the end of the arrangment, around the 10 minute mark, where they stay. I can them grab them and put them in as I am working.

I start with a 16 bar loop, starting at the 65th bar (so there is room to stretch out for the intro)... I build and build until I have what I consider the first drop to be.. then i start stretching things out in either direction to create the tune.

I like to take what the person has given me, and mess with it until I have created something similar but still different.... chuck in something that is unexpected like a chord change or morph one of the synthlines into something percussive etc.

For my personal style, I usually take a core element of the original, and cut it up using the glitchy bassline technique I use... so the what was a simple element, is now complex and driving the whole tune.

Have fun

-Tom

[stormfield]

Vaguely, I usually begin picking out bits of the parts that sound nice, and ignoring parts that sound crap, then play around with those until a loop gets going, then keep messing around + arranging stuff until you get a track that doesn't sound like just a bunch of loops end-to-end.

This has the tendency to make the remix sound very little like the original (which may or may not be a good thing, depending what the guy wants!)

It also helps to rest for a few days and then get back into it with fresh ears and hopefully some nice-sounding random accidents to add to it.

If you have an idea that the remix should sound a little like another track that you heard, then maybe drag that track into the arrangement (audio disabled) and use that as a rough guide to wherre the drops and breakdowns etc are.

am just rambling on but hope it helps

[FrankBlack]

From reading around it seems that other people can warp whole tracks of live music no problem, this is just what I need to learn. Does anyone know where I can find a tutorial for this?
Thanks.
FB

[blitit]

Auto warping never works, you have to do it yourself
There are a LOT of tutorial about this subject. Just google it or youtube it.

Just an advice: There arent rules on how to make remixes (and music). You just make it.

[ollyb303]

http://www.vinkalmann.com/VINKALMANN_Warping_Guide.pdf

There you go.

[FrankBlack]

Thanks for the tips. I read that guide and it got me started, but all the tutorials are for electronic music which has the advantage of being steady tempo, and the waveforms are easy to see.

I finished warping my first full track but it took while, and there is probably some ways to make it faster. First problem I wanted to solve is how to see beat better when audio track has a lot of sounds, so I created a EQ to leave only the snare drum, and bounced that to another track so I could have a simple waveform to use. Is there a way to update waveform of audio track to show result of audio effect without bouncing track? From there I had to add warp markers for each measure. From there I guess I can rename .asd file to match original track instead of bounced track.