leedsquietman wrote:IP - you have been a registered user on the board for a matter of weeks. I'll reserve judgement that you have experience with Live prior to this, in order to make a broad sweeping statement such as 'it's definately worth every penny'. Obviously, we all have a love for the company and the software, and I've always considered Ableton a totally stand up, customer friendly company, so I am hopeful that they will reconsider the decision on scrapping educational discounts. They've had plenty of my money since Live 6, I have bought peripheral instruments and items from the Ableton store (even though the shipping to Canada is crippling) - but I have also championed the use of Live repeatedly on Cubase.net and persuaded several to buy into Live, and the same at other sites. All we're asking for is a little goodwill in a really terrible time.
What makes it all the more galling, is Steinberg, a company whose Cubase product I've used for 10 years, but almost put to sleep since getting Live, are suddenly getting smart after years of dumb rudeness and slashing prices and trying to get people onboard and trying to be a bit 'nicer' - who'd have thunk it. I personally would never run cracked software, but ABleton are pushing themselves more and more to people running illegit versions with their pricing policies. Yes, it's special, and has a niche, but that isn't a license to abuse the customer. So, in actual fact, even though I probably will upgrade (eventually), I don't see why I should STFU. I have a right to voice my opinion, I've bought the gear, done the online questionnaires they sent, contributed nearly 3000 posts (mostly on topic) in less than 3 years on this forum, upgraded to new versions previously and beta tested Live 7 and 8, so I've given something back to them Ableton need to know that they are putting off sales, putting off existing customers, and will be subject to more piracy.
They might not like to hear that, and I'm sure they will justify it, all we're asking for is some consideration in this grim period of economic turmoil. If they scrap edu pricing on Live 9 and the economy is in better shape by then, it's much less of a deal.
man first of all i agree with almost everything you are saying. But expensive/worth-every-penny thing is something different for me. Even if live cost 10.000 again for me is worthing every penny as it is a part of my life now (is taking the 1/3+. Sleep, eat, shit, live ;p)
second i joined Tue Mar 04,
2008 so im a registered user on the board for a year and a matter of weeks :p
But this is in not the case man, i used live to my school also and been a cubase user for 3 years before switching. Also i have pass from logic and pro-tools ( ok, m-powerer) so i have a clear opinion (100% mine not just running around forums and say what everybody else is saying). Of-course i miss lot of things after switching but the workflow is the #1 man. But ok this is an other story
Now for the update only. coloring - fades - grouping - multiband dynamics - limiter etc etc blabla is something that other daws have for years (and are
some things i missed after switching). In my opinion all these should be updated slowly slowly from 7.01 to 7.15 but again this is an other story. 179 to get them or ill stay to 7 it is simple.
. just proves that those that have the money make the money.
