The facts: Not even worth pirating...

arachnaut · Post by **arachnaut** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:05 am

Robert Heinlein, 1983:

arachnaut · Post by **arachnaut** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:07 am

Donald Buchla, in concert, live, 1984, wearing a green and a red sock.
I was in the front row.

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:08 am

arachnaut wrote:
Johnisfaster wrote:
arachnaut wrote:I don't know how to reply to this adequately.

I worked at a company with software so large the source code filled a whole room. The software ran in the White House, in hospitals, in city and state government's offices, etc. 24x7. Truly redundant. It really worked.

Live isn't built to those standards, but it's still a big system.

It also has this problem of being built on a Mac and still having to run on a PC... but that's their choice.

I don't work in software anymore, I don't have the stamina.

I'm happy to buy Live and let them work out the problems. I'm worth it.
how does code fill a room? did you print every bit of code on paper? seems to me like you could fit most of it on a TBdrive from walmart for about $119
Why do I bother trying to help you kids?

This was in 1978. Do you know how much hard drives costs back then - no wait, the Winchester hard drive, let alone the PC was still quite a bit away... The Moog, just a few years old. CDs, what the hell are they?

You really don't know how spoiled we are now, electronics and software are the only things going down in price year after year.

how was I to know you were talking about 1978? I'm sure TB drives were like $300 back then

ha!

arachnaut · Post by **arachnaut** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:20 am

Angstrom wrote:I was born in 1998, I can't even remember what a mobile phone was. My grandad talked about them I think

I designed my first web site in 1984 just before the Apple announcement during the Superbowl.

Sibanger · Post by **Sibanger** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:32 am

arachnaut wrote:
Angstrom wrote: you have thought far too much about this. it's a troll post, on the internet.
next time post a picture and move on.
Right, how about this:

Me in 1980 building my first synthesizer. Yes, those are transistors, perhaps even a VTVM...

Donald Buchla, in concert, live, 1984, wearing a green and a red sock.
I was in the front row.

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Donald Buchla, in concert, live, 1984, wearing a green and a red sock.
I was in the front row.

Post Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:07 am
arachnaut

Post subject: Re: The facts: Not even worth pirating... Reply with quote
Robert Heinlein, 1983:

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Robert Heinlein, 1983:

I designed my first web site in 1984 just before the Apple announcement during the Superbowl.

GEEK!

(massive compliment)

Silwolffe · Post by **Silwolffe** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:52 am

Wow, I feel so incredibly young. Awesome photographs!

SteveP72 · Post by **SteveP72** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:23 am

I felt compelled to reply to this rather 'BS' post. Anyway..

I'm a software engineer and I do understand the fact that Ableton at some point needs to deliver the product. One way or another, Beta testing must stop and the software must be released. This is just a raw economical fact. They need to get their bread and butter payed.

As for the stability, ok, there may be some issues but that has been with each release, although I'm very new to Ableton It is nothing that can't be fixed. A bit more patience (just like I am holding off a little more).

It's a shame that people always tend to criticize about what's not done properly but never seem to praise what's been delivered. It's the nature of the beast.

Still, congratulation to Ableton to bring out what's for me one of the best DAWs on the market.

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:25 pm

^ what he said, and ...

great photos !

Ajbbklyn · Post by **Ajbbklyn** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:38 pm

Photo-thread hijack alert...

No sophisticated electronica in sight. Just a couple of steam-powered tape recorders and a 16mm motion picture camera.

petestuff · Post by **petestuff** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:06 pm

Now that is a top picture. Hair like that has made a comeback - cool.

ThrowAway · Post by **ThrowAway** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:04 pm

Timur alert

rasputin · Post by **rasputin** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:51 pm

arachnaut wrote:
Angstrom wrote: you have thought far too much about this. it's a troll post, on the internet.
next time post a picture and move on.
Right, how about this:

Me in 1980 building my first synthesizer. Yes, those are transistors, perhaps even a VTVM...

Great pic! I hope that test equipment up on the shelf was all built by you from Heath, Knight or Eico kits!

(It's fun posting stuff that under-30s will have no clue about.)

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:55 pm

rasputin wrote:Great pic! I hope that test equipment up on the shelf was all built by you from Heath, Knight or Eico kits!

(It's fun posting stuff that under-30s will have no clue about.)

never EVER thought I'd read about Heath kits in the midst of tarnce DJs.

very respectable setup.

nerds FTW

Jarvisimon · Post by **Jarvisimon** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:06 pm

SteveP72 wrote:Beta testing must stop and the software must be released. This is just a raw economical fact. They need to get their bread and butter payed.

Whilst I agree with this to an extent, we all have raw economical facts governing our lives.

Mine is that i'm not anyone's piggy bank and am unwilling to part with my money just because someone has hit their target release time and has knowingly released buggy software to the public without announcing a clear plan to fix the bugs that remain. My bread and butter is more important to me than theirs.

SteveP72 wrote:Still, congratulation to Ableton to bring out what's for me one of the best DAWs on the market.

I totally agree here, though considering the above statement, in its present state, its usefulness is somewhat diminished.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:09 pm

Jarvisimon wrote:Mine is that i'm not anyone's piggy bank and am unwilling to part with my money just because someone has hit their target release time and has knowingly released buggy software to the public without announcing a clear plan to fix the bugs that remain. My bread and butter is more important to me than theirs.

whatever, show me a software company that does this.