Help Me Crack Justice's Crazy Sound

[Scottery]

cool thanks

[tnismo88]

check out the song called attack of the fembots. i used the justic technique along wiht bloody beetroots

www.myspace.com/robbedbyrobots

i use the technique where i have 4 basses.

one low end
one hi pass filtered

the other two make the zip sounds and are in the same frequencies,

over drove every thing and bitcrushed it along with seperating all my drums into different tracks adding reverb to snares and compressing kicks. then route all the drums into one master drum track and compress that all together.


the same basslines are by all four basses just some notes are hit differently to give it a dynamic sound.

[supamonsta]

yeah, some of you guys really found it !!

I'm hurry to manage it myself, so I can give it up and find MY sound, don't want to sound like 1.000.000 artists anymore.

That quest is really good to learn a lot of sound engineering / composing tricks, and those "justice sound?" topics are really useful to progress (sidechaining compression saved my life !


but I don't want to be another wannabe, copying sound AND visual (those blinky pink / electric blue on dark baground with 80ies heavy metal fonts

LEARN FROM YOUR BELOVED ARTISTS, BUT PLEASE STAY YOURSELF !!!

DON'T SELL YOUR SOULS TO MTV's AND F**** HYPE RADIOS


best regards,

[krachtwerk]

check out the song called attack of the fembots. i used the justic technique along wiht bloody beetroots

www.myspace.com/robbedbyrobots

i use the technique where i have 4 basses.

one low end
one hi pass filtered

the other two make the zip sounds and are in the same frequencies,

over drove every thing and bitcrushed it along with seperating all my drums into different tracks adding reverb to snares and compressing kicks. then route all the drums into one master drum track and compress that all together.


the same basslines are by all four basses just some notes are hit differently to give it a dynamic sound.

very good stuff you got there mate!

[Aequitas123]

check out the song called attack of the fembots. i used the justic technique along wiht bloody beetroots

www.myspace.com/robbedbyrobots

i use the technique where i have 4 basses.

one low end
one hi pass filtered

the other two make the zip sounds and are in the same frequencies,

over drove every thing and bitcrushed it along with seperating all my drums into different tracks adding reverb to snares and compressing kicks. then route all the drums into one master drum track and compress that all together.


the same basslines are by all four basses just some notes are hit differently to give it a dynamic sound.

Nice work. I'm listening to the track on shitty speakers at work. How much low end do you really get with this?

You should do a Tutorial for one of your tracks. I'd be interested to see how you took the initial bass and drum line and formed the rest of the song.

[tnismo88]

thanks alot guys! YEAH it has some really good low end bump to it. I played it last thursday at a club called V20 in long beach and the crowd really dug it.

I used Ozone 3 on my master channel and it brought everything up to a really great level.

I would maybe be interested in doing a tutorial but im really busy right now on finishing up my EP and playing shows.

As for techniques on writing the song i usual just do bass melodies first along with my drums melodies. I compose my melodies as simple as possible. I hold and draw out notes and keep it simple.

I then go back and edit the notes and swith them up from legato to sticatto. This is what keeps the melodies interesting. I also scale notes octaves up and down to keep it funky.

I dup the bass track and change the bass sound sot the freq dont cross and give it more of a dynamic sound. I then edit my previous melody to accent more notes and give it more life.

REMEBER its all in the simple melodies, but complex sounds!

[nigel99]

For what it's worth, after listening to DVNO a couple of times. I would say that they are starting off with distorted slap bass licks and chopping them up and layering short slapped licks over the more disco-octave style line. And then running the whole lot through something like NI guitar rig and compressing it to death.

So, a sloppy slap bassline, cut up, rearranged very nicely and effected and compressed. These guys are VERY good at cutting up their source material and great musicians by the sound of their album.

[srxsession]

I believe they just sample everything into small slices and just cover it with a couple of synths and a beat.

[supamonsta]

well, the easier way is to make samples of justice's tracks!!!

[DJD]

has anyone experimented with guitar pedals on the synth bass line....IE bass overdrive for their bass line. Automation is really easy as its sitting in front of you and i feel like the sound is pretty awesome.

[jcwillia]

great thread - just want to throw out there if you have a sonic academy membership they posted a big long tutorial.

ok who am i kidding - i just posted in this thread so i could flag it for later use

[Aequitas123]

great thread - just want to throw out there if you have a sonic academy membership they posted a big long tutorial.

ok who am i kidding - i just posted in this thread so i could flag it for later use

Why don't you post the tutorial or at least a link?!

[jcwillia]

great thread - just want to throw out there if you have a sonic academy membership they posted a big long tutorial.

ok who am i kidding - i just posted in this thread so i could flag it for later use

Why don't you post the tutorial or at least a link?!

cuz I'm at work

got sonicacademy.com - I'm fairly certain it's still on their front page. I'll post a link when I get home (if I remember )

[jcwillia]

just like crack - the first one is free...

http://www.sonicacademy.com/site/newsItem.aspx?id=284

[stmaximus]

In regards to the general switchy gatey sound - I've used a similar technique for my EP on a couple songs.

I decided I wanted to gate sounds with the keyboard, which you can't do natively in Live (the first limitation I've come across) so I use a Reaktor ensemble I put together for this.

The idea is, come up with the biggest, loudest, brightest sound you can, but leave it without any rhythm, just long open notes.
Create a lot of these using the same notes and maybe some harmony and then route them all through the same return.
Compress heavily. Then gate using volume automation or something like the Reaktor patch so you have real-time control.

Makes a huge difference. I think of it like creating a fire-hose of sound, and then just turning the faucet off and on. This has made a big difference to me in the studio. You can listen to my EP on my website.