Logic or Protools for OSX??

[SubFunk]

Also agreed, our hardware developer opened once a digibox and started to laugh.

PT for tracking is alright though and undoubtly stable as hell, also easy to adapt when you come from tape, i mean it is where pt is coming from originally, simply replacing tape, not much more... and then it grow a little.

If they would not tie there hardware to PT, they probably would not sell any of there shitty cards.

[Machinesworking]

I don't understand the fascination with digidesign.. i really don't.

Doesn't a full HD system running TDM plugs introduce almost zero latency? This is the only thing that makes sense to me about Digi, my vocalist hates even 5ms of latency. That and the HUGE consoles that are made to control tracks in Pro Tools are step up from a Mackie Control.

Beyond that it's branding, pure and simple.

[mihai]

logic or pthd? you're better off running ubuntu server.

[adventurepants_]

logic or pthd? you're better off running ubuntu server.

lolz. so funny the way that linux nerds manage to turn unrelated conversations into Linux chinstrokery.

[mihai]

logic or pthd? you're better off running ubuntu server.

lolz. so funny the way that linux nerds manage to turn unrelated conversations into Linux chinstrokery.

linux? what's linux? is it like one of those computer clicky thingamajigs? whatever, i'm talking about ubuntu

[Tone Deft]

[mihai]

*EDIT*

nevermind.

[adventurepants_]

i heard about a command for mac users that makes ableton live run incredibly fast. open up a terminal and type

http://smouch.net/lol/


supposedly works wonders.

[mihai]

i'm hoping nobody will actually take it seriously.

[adventurepants_]

i'm hoping nobody will actually take it seriously.

actually it is kind of funny. there are some who would say that anyone running random strings they get of the interwebz deserves all they get.

funny in the same way that if i saw you slip over and break your ass, i would laugh before helping you.

[mihai]

meh, decided to post an edit just in case. want to edit your reply to it also?

[adventurepants_]

meh, decided to post an edit just in case. want to edit your reply to it also?

fixed.

[mihai]

thank you.

[salatspinatra]

It would be great if you recast this as a poll.
For that matter, why not do your mixing in ableton? Yes, there's multi-channel and post-production to be had, but I'm thinking if you're on the ableton boards, your talking to a lot of musicians. Beyond that, I don't even need a 2-track editor, really. Just make sure you get what you need. I'm inclined to say Logic is my first choice:
1) don't need to buy-in to a prescribed hardware line.
2) don't need to buy in to a HIGH-END (TDM) prescribed hardware line just to get multi-channel.
3) tremendous bang for the buck with instruments and effects.
4) resource management allows you to use any separate processor much like DSP.
5) Native file-structure
6) In-house project is aligned with firmware, drivers, and all nec. updates.
7) More personal.
despite many up-in-arms about stability, the code is rebuilt to the new chip and unix architecture, which is more than I'd trust is going on with Protools.
9) Better audio interfaces to choose from.
10) I could go on.

By the way: Protools will NEVER not pair their hardware with the software. They have the ultimate anti-cracking business model. Just look at the latest forum poll. Exactly half of this community is using a cracked copy of ableton or has up to now. If you needed a physical key, which is what they protools rigging is, you'd rope more people in. Then to keep them, you offer trade ins etc, and make sure you envy your neighbor with the bigger rig. This worked when their customer support was more personal. Now, they've predictably gotten too big for this loyalty-scheme to have the same effect. Mind you, I don't like having to buy-in to protools. I'm more a best-of-breed purchaser.

Down side to Logic:
Not as innocuous as protools. Protools is a standard BECAUSE it looks generic. If you're working on a project that many other people need to get their hands on (such is the culture in the studio television and film industry) then the next guy wants to get a quick glimpse of your work and be able to pick up or work with you from the get-go. Logic reveals something interesting about logic. That is to say, what seems logical to me may not be logical to you. Very counter-intuitive that notion, as we often think of logic as some "self-evident" set of rules that everyone would be naturally inclined to subscribe to. Logic, the DAW, is anything but self-evident.

Another concern would be how you're housing Logic. The only problem I can foresee is that it's too powerful. I know, for example, if I was rendering edits in a large image or film, my lap-top could handle it, but it sort of reminds me of those colonial-period safari's where the europeans travel with every comfort imaginable while a team of locals lug everything around. It's as if their trying to emulate every aspect of being safe at home. Logic is not that compact tent in the ultra-lite pack. It's so big, it comes in multiple packages, like that caravan of safari-goers.

Here's a question for you: Mainstage vs RAX? or just route your instruments through ableton and be done with it?

[pieter]

i'm a former protools user. switched to DP, tried logic but i still prefer digital performer.