New Apple G4 £318.785 gets you 1.42 ghz New ipod for £69

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
jamief
Posts: 1856
Joined: Sun Dec 08, 2002 1:50 pm
Location: Awakend

Post by jamief » Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:44 pm

sweetjesus wrote:im part of an elite group who need to know about the latest toys before theyre invented.

we use technology blueprints that we recovered just a few miles from roswell.. u see the UFO was burning up in the atmosphere and its contents got scattered around ... the NSA and CIA got the shit end of the deal, they just found some carcasses of green dudes with big eyes...
how come you just joined the forum last year then ? bit slow there :roll: :wink:

Sales Dude McBoob
Posts: 2844
Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:34 pm
Location: Durham, NC. USA
Contact:

Post by Sales Dude McBoob » Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:00 pm

Rewind a bit here:
And the whole switch-to-Linux-so-I-can-use-cheaper-hardware looks a bit less appealing as well...
I was wondering how this dude was planning on going about switching to Linux. You can't run Live on a Linux box, can you?

sqook
Posts: 2430
Joined: Mon Oct 04, 2004 8:14 pm
Location: Sweden
Contact:

Post by sqook » Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:03 pm

AdamJay wrote:the difficult thing is being able to see the MiniMac's graphical display on the PC laptop, requiring a little more than just a KVM.

the idea is not having to hook up a monitor to the minimac, but use the pc laptop screen to see the graphical display. =\
It seems to me that it would be much faster to just use a crossover cable to connect your PC laptop and the mac, and then just use a remote X session or VNC to control the mac...

I know that apple has a remote desktop client rip-off program, but that would require having another mac to connect to it with, which I guess kind of defeats the purpose here... ;)

sweetjesus
Posts: 8803
Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2004 3:12 pm
Location: www.fridge.net.au
Contact:

Post by sweetjesus » Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:40 pm

jamief wrote:
sweetjesus wrote:im part of an elite group who need to know about the latest toys before theyre invented.

we use technology blueprints that we recovered just a few miles from roswell.. u see the UFO was burning up in the atmosphere and its contents got scattered around ... the NSA and CIA got the shit end of the deal, they just found some carcasses of green dudes with big eyes...
how come you just joined the forum last year then ? bit slow there :roll: :wink:
on serious note, a few of us at a place i used to work out found live a few years back, but I only started using it last year.

To be honest I still do 90% of my work with midi, so back then fruityloops + cubase sx was great for me since a steinberg rep showed me how to use cubase sx when i was working at a music shop.. it's only when I started to think about moving toward live performance that I seriously considered live. Thank god (even though im athiest) that I did because I tried many different options (burning CD's and using CDJ's and also tried Traktor) but neither of those appealed to me... but something about Live just clicked. I totally see it as an instrument, an RS7000 on steroids then cocain...

noisetonepause
Posts: 4938
Joined: Sat Dec 28, 2002 3:38 pm
Location: Sticks and stones

Post by noisetonepause » Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:54 pm

Sales Dude McBoob wrote:Rewind a bit here:
And the whole switch-to-Linux-so-I-can-use-cheaper-hardware looks a bit less appealing as well...
I was wondering how this dude was planning on going about switching to Linux. You can't run Live on a Linux box, can you?
No you can't. But all I require is multitrack audio. I just ended up with Live, really, don't use 9/10 of the features...

-Paws

Jalope
Posts: 44
Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:58 pm

Post by Jalope » Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:53 pm


noisetonepause
Posts: 4938
Joined: Sat Dec 28, 2002 3:38 pm
Location: Sticks and stones

Post by noisetonepause » Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:23 am

A wanker by the looks of it ;)

I disagree with many of his conclusions but I'm too tired to type it all out now. But. He's a wanker.

-Paws

Moonburnt
Posts: 345
Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2003 1:44 pm
Contact:

Post by Moonburnt » Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:00 am

noisetonepause wrote:A wanker by the looks of it ;)

I disagree with many of his conclusions but I'm too tired to type it all out now. But. He's a wanker.

-Paws
No need to type out your reasoning, your wanker conclusion makes a pretty good case on its own. On the basis of that article, I'd say he could also be termed an arse. His objections are trivial really, certainly nowhere near as big a deal as he makes out.

raapie
Posts: 1035
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2002 8:13 am
Location: The Hague, Netherlands
Contact:

..

Post by raapie » Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:11 am

what kind of batteries will it be using? if it's Li-ion it will be dead within 2 / 2.5 years... but probably all devices are using Li-ion... even laptops...
Marco Raaphorst

music, sound & story maker

https://melodiefabriek.com

tribalogical
Posts: 318
Joined: Thu Jan 09, 2003 7:26 pm
Location: boise, idaho

Post by tribalogical » Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:20 am

what bill-the-wanker totally missed is this:

a full-stop 1.25Ghz Apple G4 Mac..... for $500?? I say wow....

Add ANY monitor, ANY keyboard, ANY mouse (I can get all three, and with decent enough quality for a "low-end" computer, for about $300 -- nothing says you have to buy them from Apple).... but I already do have a pretty good monitor that I could use (no need to buy another one), and anyway, I want this as a THIRD computer -- in addition to my powerbook and main studio tower..... chances are, I'd use a monitor/keyboard/mouse switchbox hooked up to the mini (cost = $50), so I don't need ANY of those bits in addition..... See, I want to use my Mac mini as:

1. An outboard VST processor & archive storage unit

2. A "Media Center" hooked up to my A/V gear (think Air Tunes, DVD Player, Photo Library, etc.)... so I don't have to use my main studio Mac to store or deal with photos, movies, iTunes, etc. etc.

3. My main box Word-processing, Internet (email, browsing, chat), etc.... so my primary studio Mac remains pristine and optimized for audio and video production.....

And yet, it's tied into my main system via the network, so I can keep them synched, talking to each other when needed, etc.......

They're going to sell as many of these to existing Mac owners who've wanted a "cheap" second Mac as they do to newcomers... at least at the beginning........

One thing Bill forgot was, in the OLD days of Apple, the keyboard and mouse (and monitor with some models) were sold separately, and that's when Macs cost $5,000!!!

So to bill-the-wanker, I say "So what!!" In the end, it may cost $800 ~ 1,000 to *fully* outfit your new Mac mini..... but that's still a heck of a good price for a full-fledged Mac, and is still less than an iMac G5.... so the price point is spot on, IMO.....

Flexibility is the key here..... there's nothing "fraudulent" about it.....

If Bill had allowed comments on his blog post, he'd be major flame-bait right about now! :D

peace,
tribalogical

Vercengetorex
Posts: 826
Joined: Thu Nov 07, 2002 12:38 pm
Location: Brooklyn, NYC

Post by Vercengetorex » Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:21 am

I am honestly not sure what kind of batteries Bill Palmer runs on...

but the miniMac does not have any batteries at all.
I cant think of a sig

noisetonepause
Posts: 4938
Joined: Sat Dec 28, 2002 3:38 pm
Location: Sticks and stones

Post by noisetonepause » Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:45 am

Vercengetorex wrote:I am honestly not sure what kind of batteries Bill Palmer runs on...

but the miniMac does not have any batteries at all.
Errr, yeah. It will have a battery in there to keep, I think, the system clock running when it is powered off. All computers have this.

-Paws

Vercengetorex
Posts: 826
Joined: Thu Nov 07, 2002 12:38 pm
Location: Brooklyn, NYC

Post by Vercengetorex » Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:38 pm

Actually Noize, Apple computers use what is called a "reality distortion feild" allowing them to pull energy from the Aether to continously power thier clocks. :roll:

I was infact replying to Marco's post most likely regarding the iPod Shuffle in a humorus manner.

Please see this thread regarding the new Humor VSTi you may need to download and install :wink: :

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... &start=180
I cant think of a sig

Jalope
Posts: 44
Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:58 pm

Post by Jalope » Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:37 pm

Yes but do they have batteries or not? :roll:

Post Reply