Do you equate Hip Hop listenership with shady activity?

[puzl]

In my opinion, even if your neighbors end up being totally shady crooked criminals.... all that means is that they are criminals. It doesn't really say anything about music. Whether you interpret music as the cause of someone choosing a life of crime is your own thing. But, logic dictates that you should probably do a hell of a lot more research into said person's life before making that type of claim. Some people make the same assumptions with video games influencing people's actions. I can understand why people make these types of assumptions, but, for the most part I disagree. I think most people prone to violence/crime don't need music or games to instruct them to engage in this type of activity. They will probably gravitate toward this type of behavior due to more deeply-rooted personal issues.

Thugs existed long before thug rap music existed and will exist long after that type of rap goes out of style.

[beats me]

Thanks to everybody that has supported my journey in this thread through ignorance, paranoia, judgment, assumptions, prejudice, misstatements, back peddling, and denial.

To the rest of you: rat-a-tat-tat.

I thought many (including myself) were bending over backwards...
do you ever recgnise an olive branch when one is being proferred?

Just like I had to come out and say directly I have racial prejudices in certain situations, I needed you to say directly that you are an olive branch distributor.

I think we've had some difficult discussions in this thread but now it's time for healing.

[eco]

This IS real hip-hop gangsta music...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxq2pCaW7Sk

[adventurepants_]

stick butter on the balcony rail, a'la the famous butter floor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EEgM92_LGU

[funknotik]

Very strange question, it seems like you wanted to let everyone know what you thought without actually saying it. I do equate listeners of lil wayne with stupidity. But not Public Enemy....

[ThrowAway]

this thread is starting to remind me of this one a little: http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php? ... 43&start=0

[Minimal Justice System]

I would personally burn all hip hop / rap music and take a wee on the ashes, I would also do the same to the culture it has developed over the years and most listeners if I could get away with it......

I would like to think most people who listen to such music could be good people but we all know they're not, they're only human and flawed as we all are. It's just a shame rap music seems to think these flaws are both BIG and CLEVER and touts them as acceptable lifestyle choices.

[Warminstrel]

Commercial, 'bling-bling' Hip Hop may have in fact been constructed by the illuminati (or other conspirator) to give some kind of audible identification to thier main target group of 'brainwashable' sheep open to some good old fashioned NLP.

Theres more than likely some sub-liminal 'tonal mind-manipulation' in the compressed kicks and phat snares being played at around 80 bpm and they clearly use old samples from bands like The Human League as repeatative mantras for the same purpose

We have the same over here in the UK only they call it 'Garage' and the followers of it 'Chavs'.

These 'Hip-Hoppers' and 'Chavs' will be the foot soldiers for the New World Order.

The bling and baseball caps will of course evolve into some find of capped uniform with badges n shit...george orwell...u get the drift.

Never mind.

Shit happens.

werd up.

[eco]

Being 35+ something and actually quite into hip-hop (and also acid, techno, dnb etc) when I was young I think people are being hypocrites to be honest - when you are young you listen to whatever you want. When I think about what I was doing when I was 18, god... I was a totally different person. On the interweb now is almost like a sense of "animosity" for no real reason.
I'm sure that most people will eventually just realize it's not the end of the world to get angry about things like this and you'll laugh about what you listen to at the time.

[pulsoc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzeZhCt5PVA

He has all your answers

[dredd i knight]

I would personally burn all hip hop / rap music and take a wee on the ashes, I would also do the same to the culture it has developed over the years and most listeners if I could get away with it......

I would like to think most people who listen to such music could be good people but we all know they're not, they're only human and flawed as we all are. It's just a shame rap music seems to think these flaws are both BIG and CLEVER and touts them as acceptable lifestyle choices.

you're an ass

[Aequitas123]

wow, its been at least an entire day and you guys are still talking about this!?

[beats me]

Would you hire an Asian chauffeur?

Why start a new thread.

[ThrowAway]

I would, its a good deal. You get a body guard,human calculator, a violin player and a driver for the price of one.

[dazzer]

they call it 'Garage' and the followers of it 'Chavs'.

You've really got your finger on the pulse of UK Urban music, haven't you?

I would personally burn all hip hop / rap music and take a wee on the ashes, I would also do the same to the culture it has developed over the years and most listeners if I could get away with it......

I would like to think most people who listen to such music could be good people but we all know they're not, they're only human and flawed as we all are. It's just a shame rap music seems to think these flaws are both BIG and CLEVER and touts them as acceptable lifestyle choices.

Interesting opinion. What music you into?