Song sound worse when i render it

[Ki113rP3nquin]

It doesn't sound as good as it does when ever I play the song in Ableton.
I don't know how to explain it.

For Example:
http://soundcloud.com/digitallyactive/i ... stin-perea

Any help on the rendering process please?
I am running Ableton Live 7

[MetalCube]

post your render settings.

[Ki113rP3nquin]

[MetalCube]

try Powr-2 for dither. Also make sure your tracks aren't going into the red on the master channel.

[Ki113rP3nquin]

try Powr-2 for dither. Also make sure your tracks aren't going into the red on the master channel.

Oh yay
it sound way clearer
thank you =]

[proteron]

try Powr-2 for dither. Also make sure your tracks aren't going into the red on the master channel.

Oh yay
it sound way clearer
thank you =]

Glad that made things sound better. I don't have any difference between my "Play" sound and "Render" sound without any dithering. However, I notice you have it set to convert to MONO which would definitely change the sound. Are you setting it up for using on a mono PA or something?

[Ki113rP3nquin]

try Powr-2 for dither. Also make sure your tracks aren't going into the red on the master channel.

Oh yay
it sound way clearer
thank you =]

Glad that made things sound better. I don't have any difference between my "Play" sound and "Render" sound without any dithering. However, I notice you have it set to convert to MONO which would definitely change the sound. Are you setting it up for using on a mono PA or something?

hmm no that's just how it was, i haven't messed with the settings in a long time.
Should i take it off

[Superchibisan]

dither was your answer.

reason being the 16 bit render rate. any time you go below 32 bit, you need to use dither.

[BOB Cooper]

recording the master output in one track is better than rendering, if you wanna get a better sound.

[Superchibisan]

thats because it records it in 32 bit. you can render to the same bit rate

[BOB Cooper]

yes but, using the same bit rate, it should be slightly better if you record it, than if you render it.
Live rendering a 4 minute songs in a few seconds, makes me very suspicious about the computation used to render the file.

[proteron]

yes but, using the same bit rate, it should be slightly better if you record it, than if you render it.
Live rendering a 4 minute songs in a few seconds, makes me very suspicious about the computation used to render the file.

You've got to upgrade that 286, indeed suspicious It doesn't take a fast computer as long to produce all the pieces of songs that we listen to over time. I used to do realtime mixdowns through virtual mixers on my old Creamware system (RIP) which sounded great but was annoyingly time consuming.

[Superchibisan]

i have no quality issues with rendering vs recording.

[Walkingmachine]

probably should take the convert to mono off

[pepezabala]

yes, "convert to mono" could be a reason for the render sounding worse!!

Also the OP should check his levels, if the original mix will go over 0 db (red in the master) it might sound fine when playing back but sounds bad when rendering. You can check the "normalize" option in order to reduce this.