Band Live Set Playlist?

[Damos]

Hey,

I'm a keyboard player in a band and I use Live to host my VSTs as well as trigger a few loops. I've got different sets programed for different songs but I'm wondering how other people are set up to switch to a different set (song). There's often a delay and the audio will cut out when switching between songs is there away around this as opposed to setting up one big, highly complicated set?

[turok2step]

you could save a whole set as a single grouped track of all the tracks and drag that in from the browser.

[lapieuvre]

In session view, you can place as many songs as you want, then launch the scenes 1 by 1. The best is to cut songs, in a way to have verse - chorus- bridge - etc. and then you get more latitude when you play live. When the song is over, just launch the next scene in no time, just put the new tempo info at the scene name ( "80bpm Song 2" for example) The live set can hold hundreds of scenes!

[DrTroutHair]

Howdy Damos
I've been gigging with live for a good few years now and started out doing things exactly the way you describe. I found it did exactly what you described too

The way I've got things running now restricts any impromptu jams but that is not likely to happen with the stuff I do anyway. I use arrangement view and drag in 'rendered' files from sets - the bonus of doing this is that all the effects etc are rendered into the track and hence v low cpu usage - the downside of course is that you can't play around with them.

Say I've got beats, synths, strings and ungodly sounds (so four sets of tracks to make up each tune), I'd render each set of tracks individually from the original tune (with each render starting at 0 mins and secs to enable easy match up - even if for example the strings don't come in until 2 mins 30 sec, which means you have 2 mins 30 sec of silence on said render). I then open the new set which I'll use live and drag these four rendered tracks into tracks 1-4 in the arrangement view, starting at 0 mins and secs.
For the next tune I repeat the process above bout putting the next four tracks from tune number 2 in the set into 5-8, starting just where the first tune ended, i.e. 5 mins 30 secs. Continue adding as many tunes as you want, after the next in the next set of tracks.

The cool thing about this is, if there’s a big rig and a professional sound guy/girl (and you have the capacity on your sound card – I use a MOTU ultralite so up to 10 instruments out) you can give him/her as many different channels as you want to mix. Conversely if the sound guy/girl doesn’t know their arse from their elbow or it’s a small mixing desk front of house you can pipe everything down 1 (mono) or 2 (stereo) channels.

This won't suit everyone’s 'live' style but as I play guitar and sing I don't go near the laptop other than to hit the space bar to begin and then to scroll down/across the screen to keep and eye on where I am in each tune.

Hope this garbled gubbins makes sense.


http://www.thelavaexperiments.co.uk
http://www.myspace.com/thelavaexperiments

[transology]

Howdy Damos
I've been gigging with live for a good few years now and started out doing things exactly the way you describe. I found it did exactly what you described too

The way I've got things running now restricts any impromptu jams but that is not likely to happen with the stuff I do anyway. I use arrangement view and drag in 'rendered' files from sets - the bonus of doing this is that all the effects etc are rendered into the track and hence v low cpu usage - the downside of course is that you can't play around with them.

Say I've got beats, synths, strings and ungodly sounds (so four sets of tracks to make up each tune), I'd render each set of tracks individually from the original tune (with each render starting at 0 mins and secs to enable easy match up - even if for example the strings don't come in until 2 mins 30 sec, which means you have 2 mins 30 sec of silence on said render). I then open the new set which I'll use live and drag these four rendered tracks into tracks 1-4 in the arrangement view, starting at 0 mins and secs.
For the next tune I repeat the process above bout putting the next four tracks from tune number 2 in the set into 5-8, starting just where the first tune ended, i.e. 5 mins 30 secs. Continue adding as many tunes as you want, after the next in the next set of tracks.

The cool thing about this is, if there’s a big rig and a professional sound guy/girl (and you have the capacity on your sound card – I use a MOTU ultralite so up to 10 instruments out) you can give him/her as many different channels as you want to mix. Conversely if the sound guy/girl doesn’t know their arse from their elbow or it’s a small mixing desk front of house you can pipe everything down 1 (mono) or 2 (stereo) channels.

This won't suit everyone’s 'live' style but as I play guitar and sing I don't go near the laptop other than to hit the space bar to begin and then to scroll down/across the screen to keep and eye on where I am in each tune.

Hope this garbled gubbins makes sense.


http://www.thelavaexperiments.co.uk
http://www.myspace.com/thelavaexperiments

Hello Dr Troutehair,
Do you change your tempo during performances ? I'm really looking for an solution with two keys. Let's say C4 and D4 for +1 BPM and -1BPM. The drummer will trigger those two key on the fly !! That would be so perfect for us !!

Thanks
Thanks