French House Style Bass - Help Needed!!

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ef2020
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French House Style Bass - Help Needed!!

Post by ef2020 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:48 pm

Hey guys...

Not sure I'm in the correct area, but hope I am!

I am in love with french house style bass- for example, on tracks like Intro by Alan Braxe and Fred Falke, Junior Jack's E-Samba/Thrill me etc.. And Daft Punk.

Is there a specific VST instrument I can use to acquire these sounds?

Please help?? Searched gogole and cannot find anything...

Cheers

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Post by beats me » Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:32 pm

Who has the Daft Punk French House inquiries shift this week?

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Post by Muzz » Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:03 am

google side chain compression

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Post by sweetjesus » Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:09 am

Muzz wrote:google side chain compression
if you bounce your head back and forth, using the right attack for when you bring ur neck up and the correct release for when u bounce your head back, you can emulate side chain compression naturally :P

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Post by beats me » Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:34 am

sweetjesus wrote:
Muzz wrote:google side chain compression
if you bounce your head back and forth, using the right attack for when you bring ur neck up and the correct release for when u bounce your head back, you can emulate side chain compression naturally :P
that needs to go in a tips and tricks sticky

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Post by woodwardjnr » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:08 am

try trilogy, use a simple bass patch and put it through the redux in live mess around untill u get desired effects. Then sidechain compress

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Post by UKRuss » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:29 am

Tip of the week.

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Post by XL Foley » Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:25 pm

Actually the doppler effect would screw up the pitch...you could use the remote control for your poweramp

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Post by lesterdiamond » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:29 pm

try these:

IK Multimedia Samplemoog
Arturia Moog Modular V and Minimoog

maybe throw a gate on after the compressor, Daft Punk had used the Alesis3630 "the most" and it seems like they made use of both the compressor and the gate on the unit to get those types of results

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Post by ef2020 » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:19 pm

Cheers guys... much appreciated

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Re: French House Style Bass - Help Needed!!

Post by Walkingmachine » Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:29 pm

these basslines sound like a real bass to me......especially since fred faulke is a bass player......try sampling notes from a real bass throwing them into a sampler and playing with the keyboard....that had worked pretty well for me

also the bass sounds maybe slightly sidechain compressed but not a lot

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Re: French House Style Bass - Help Needed!!

Post by supamonsta » Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:25 pm

The mysterious so well kept secret for "french house style bass", well... I'll give it to you : be quick because I'll delete tthe post in 20 minutes...

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TO BE FRENCH

seriously.




naaah, ...

fred falke, alan braxe and junior jack are not french, are they? so I don't understand you state their sound as "french sounding"...? (ok, because of daft punk I guess...)


for the track "intro", it seems to be a real funky slap style bassline, played by a real bass player.
E samba seems less human bassline, but could be too.

for the sound itself... well, apart from a real bass guitar, any hardware or software synth could give you a good bass base. there is no easy way, no "french sound plugin", just good compression, EQing, and miixng it well together... For these 2 tracks, you could search for an analog style bass synth (or hardware, but $$$), "analog", "minimonsta",... and lots of others I guess, and use a simple bass patch (one saw oscillator) into a Low pass filter to wipe out the high part to obtain this warm and dark sound. comp it, EQ it a bit...

I know my post won't really help you...

just a point : for the 2 tracks you take as example, I think sidechain compression is not the thing you need precisely. It IS something to know and use for electro, but it is NOT what will give you the good bass sound you are searching. It will help the bassline to suit softly in the overall mix, but it won't affect the sound quality of your bassline.

Hope I help a bit,

and don't be afraid on the french thing, I'm just kidding ;)

cheers

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Re: French House Style Bass - Help Needed!!

Post by Schuft » Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:29 pm

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brrrrrrr
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:-D

I think what ef2020 would need is a configured instrument preset or an example live set to inspect all the detail settings.

monstrejumo, I'd say your common explaination hits it pretty well.
Of course you get slightly different results depending on the specific instrument you use. But you get the idea of how to do it.

I like this "typical" french house bassline sound as well :-) .. One of my favorite artists regarding this: Patrick Alavi

peace
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Re: French House Style Bass - Help Needed!!

Post by supamonsta » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:08 pm

here you can read a tutorial on how to sequence this kind of bassline:

http://sonictransfer.com/bass-sequencin ... punk.shtml

I guess if you have operator, or any other softsynth, you could find easy ideas on how to make this bass sound on this forum, or try googling.

cheers


ps : p alavi sounds great yes, I'll check his tunes further more.

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