Sidechaining a certain frequency possible?

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Re: Sidechaining a certain frequency possible?

Post by timothyallan » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:13 am

Hrmm, I was thinking he wanted to SC a certain chunk of the spectrum, and maintain the rest of the sound. Like a multiband sidechain where everything else is intact. Orrrrr I could be totally over complicating and should just get back to work. :D

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Re: Sidechaining a certain frequency possible?

Post by cacti » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:41 am

timothyallan wrote:Hrmm, I was thinking he wanted to SC a certain chunk of the spectrum, and maintain the rest of the sound. Like a multiband sidechain where everything else is intact. Orrrrr I could be totally over complicating and should just get back to work. :D

yea pretty much, but i can work around this.

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Re: Sidechaining a certain frequency possible?

Post by Tone Deft » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:43 am

so make a rack...
slot 1 - bandpass filter for the frequency range in question, then compress it
slot 2 - put a bandstop filter a the same frequency range


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Re: Sidechaining a certain frequency possible?

Post by bagginz » Fri May 01, 2009 10:22 am

timothyallan wrote:Umm, didn't he mean he wanted to sidechain (duck) a certain frequency?
Yeah, that's how I read it. Also a very good question I thought...

In which case using the filter provided on the compressor's sidechain wouldn't work.

Unfortunately the mulitiband had no sidehain input.

As someone else mentioned, a simple sweepable crossover plug would be a useful tool in the Live's toolkit.

Would save the hassle, extra cpu and potential phase problems of fudging a solution to this by using 2 x eq 8s as well as having many other creative uses.

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Re: Sidechaining a certain frequency possible?

Post by 3dot... » Fri May 01, 2009 11:28 am

then just enable the eq on the comp...
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Re: Sidechaining a certain frequency possible?

Post by timothyallan » Fri May 01, 2009 12:16 pm

That's not going to do what the OP is asking about.

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Re: Sidechaining a certain frequency possible?

Post by 3dot... » Fri May 01, 2009 12:42 pm

so use the multiband comp... compress only the middle freq...
close on the freq you want to compreses by adjusting the x-over freqs of the high and low
adjust 'attack','release','ratio'...
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Re: Sidechaining a certain frequency possible?

Post by timothyallan » Fri May 01, 2009 12:48 pm

... but then it's not sidechained and you have a statically set frequency


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Re: Sidechaining a certain frequency possible?

Post by 3dot... » Fri May 01, 2009 1:07 pm

I don't understand the purpose of this ...seriously. :evil:
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Re: Sidechaining a certain frequency possible?

Post by timothyallan » Fri May 01, 2009 1:19 pm

lol he wants a multiband compressor which will take a external key. I think Sonalksis make one, but Live ain't got one :)
:idea: :arrow:

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Re: Sidechaining a certain frequency possible?

Post by assessingaccess » Fri May 01, 2009 3:41 pm

timothyallan wrote:lol he wants a multiband compressor which will take a external key. I think Sonalksis make one, but Live ain't got one :)
:idea: :arrow:
I've read on this forum that one might want to duck certain mid-range frequencies when vocals are present. would this be the way to do it? and is this what you guys are talking about?
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Re: Sidechaining a certain frequency possible?

Post by ethios4 » Fri May 01, 2009 4:06 pm

tw1nstates wrote:Ableton could do with a crossover, that would sort the problem, in a rack.
Made one a while back....
http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=48922

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