Watchmen

[davec1]

didn't know the comic book, had no expectations...and liked most of the movie very much

only things that really didn't match the rest of the film's quality level were jon's stupid epiphany on mars and Rohrschach's silly scene at the end. The father/daughter plot was quite a waste, too. in the second part of the movie, there were several scenes were I got impatient.

But all in all a very refreshing movie. I felt like I was offered something that I hadn't already seen in some form a thousand times...certainly deserves more credit than iron man....

[Angstrom]

I may be misremembering, I thought the Sounds of SIlence and Watchtower lyrics popped up in transitions in the book (chapter beginnings and such). The Dylan tune in the credits was featured in the book too, right? I may be misremembering, haven't read it in awhile

oddly the intro title is a Dylan song, and that chapter ends (in a little black box) with the lyric from that song ... about "at midnight all the agents and the super human crew" But the song is "Desolation Row", not The times they are a changin'. Also chapter ten is titled "two riders were aproachin'"

Anyway - like I said earlier the idea that by sticking to anything that was alluded to in the book is where this film fails worst. The fanboy perspective is "This book was unfilmable" , yes that's true - because it's a book. But the STORY is not unfilmable.
it's true, you cannot film a book, anymore than you can eat a menu.

I mean ... A direct and literal adaptation of "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" would have been filled with fucking Linda Ronstadt music for christ's sake.

Having said that, the film makers had no sense of music when left on their own, because nowhere in the book does it read "in the background, that really famous music from Koyanisquatssi plays", or anything relating to "while at the graveside, they all listened to some famous music out of The Graduate". So they fucked that up all on their own.

[Aequitas123]

Rohrschach's silly scene at the end. T

You mean when he's killed? That's my favorite part of the movie! Knowing from the book all that he's gone through leading up to that part, its devastating. Always black and white, never mixing to grey!

[Tone Deft]

read the book last week, saw the movie today. as of now neither will go down as all time faves but over time I'm finding it sticking with me. the darkness of mankind and futility of it all, love the dark nihilism. walking around the mall afterwards I wanted to torch the place.


I was soooo hoping for scenes from the parallel pirate movie. I really wanted to see how they'd do the corpses and sharks. the book was weak with the storyline of what the Pirate comic author was doing to help create the tenacle monster. dunno if it was supposed to be a surprise or if the editor cut parts out.

agreed on the music, like why the hell am I listening to Simon and Garfunkel?? I REALLY wanted to hear 'the end if the begining is the end' in this one even though it was also used in Batman. it was featured in the trailers. the Dylan track at the beginning was my Dylon fix for the next decade. enough!!

agreed the new ending was MUCH better. the book really cheated us on that. it glossed over the creation of 'the monster' and the artists kidnapped to create it.

Ozomotli or whatever he was called (the 'smartest man on Earth') had little screen presence. weak casting. the rest were very well done. Silk Specter... DEEEEYAMN!!!

good points about the snow globe being left out, even though it WAS in the movie sitting on a fireplace mantel. someone commented that the father/daughter thing was lame, it was BRILLIANT!! FFS that was the lynchpin that brought Dr Manhatten back to Earth!

Rohrschach's silly scene at the end. T

You mean when he's killed? That's my favorite part of the movie! Knowing from the book all that he's gone through leading up to that part, its devastating. Always black and white, never mixing to grey!

Rohrschach HAD TO go out like that, it gave his character real depth and meaning. he was a bad mofo when it came to killing people, did he have any moral fiber? his death answered that, yes.


book and movie, great pairing. actually that would be an insanely cool gift to give someone, a book and DVD combo, surely they'll sell the two together in all kinds of collectable packages.

all in all they were great, I think they lacked depth of emotion. no deep breakdowns, no extreme cries of anger, everyone was pretty level headed throughout the movie. the Cosplay sex scene was pretty epic though, nicely done.

lots to think about with this one.

if you haven't seen it yet, around here it's playing in very very few theaters, check it while you can, it's one to see on the big screen, no doubt.

[ikeaboy]

I've seen tales form the Black Freighter and Under the Hood, both are really good. Under the Hood has the sense of jarring realism the book had and the film didn't. Stone me now- but I never liked the Black Freighter part of the book, it took me away from the characters I was interested in. I really liked the manga of it though- dark as the devils own heart. The combination of the excellent manga artwork with top notch voice acting blew me away.

I always thought Jons epiphany in the book was a bit meh!

[nuperspective]

I've seen tales form the Black Freighter and Under the Hood, both are really good. Under the Hood has the sense of jarring realism the book had and the film didn't. Stone me now- but I never liked the Black Freighter part of the book, it took me away from the characters I was interested in. I really liked the manga of it though- dark as the devils own heart. The combination of the excellent manga artwork with top notch voice acting blew me away.

I always thought Jons epiphany in the book was a bit meh!

IMO the book stands up better on the 2nd or 3rd reads. i didnt make much of the black freighter sections at first, but once i reached the end and realised it mirrors ozi's eventual madness it makes more sense. it will be good to see how they cut this into the directors cut on bluray

i agree the ending of the film was far better than the book and it gives ostermans character a proper arc.

[LoopStationZebra]

It's been a month or so since I've seen the film, and it's interesting what impressions remain. Only 1, actually, and that's Rohrschach. James Earle Haley's performance was nothing short of stunning. He and the character overshadowed everything and everyone else in my memory. (The Comedian is a distant 2nd in terms of impression).

I was just talking with a friend a couple days ago about the film, and we both agreed on one thing: We could have watched 2 hours of JUST Rohrschach and have been quite satisfied. A prequel about his character would be excellent.

[Aequitas123]

It's been a month or so since I've seen the film, and it's interesting what impressions remain. Only 1, actually, and that's Rohrschach. James Earle Haley's performance was nothing short of stunning. He and the character overshadowed everything and everyone else in my memory. (The Comedian is a distant 2nd in terms of impression).

I was just talking with a friend a couple days ago about the film, and we both agreed on one thing: We could have watched 2 hours of JUST Rohrschach and have been quite satisfied. A prequel about his character would be excellent.

I agree 100%, Rorschach made that movie.

"None of you understand. I'm not locked in here with you. You're locked in here with me."

[LoopStationZebra]

"None of you understand. I'm not locked in here with you. You're locked in here with me."

God that was a great line. Great scene.

[john doe by choice]

Saw it at the Imax, definitely a decent flick, although the soundtrack kinda put me off as well. Also, considering the predominantly male audience, the naked blue penis to naked hot breast ratio was entirely skewed.

[Aequitas123]

God that was a great line. Great scene.

For anyone who missed it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF7i4-V1zq4

[glitchrock-buddha]

+1 on Rorschach being the best part of the film. By far. And his final scene was the the scene that hit me hardest of the film. Good acting on his part.

I'm just bummed that they didn't have Muse's Take a bow anywhere. Like The End is The beginning in the previous ad, it made that commercial.

[ikeaboy]

Saw it at the Imax, definitely a decent flick, although the soundtrack kinda put me off as well. Also, considering the predominantly male audience, the naked blue penis to naked hot breast ratio was entirely skewed.

I agree the sound track should of been a lot more neutral. I however thought it was quiet refreshing to see huge blue peni in modern cinema, I draw the line at purple peni however. This song would of worked better in the Osterman scenes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4iiyRv_NrQ

[b0unce]

shite film.
painful to watch.

[hoffman2k]

shite film.
painful to watch.

Thanks for sharing. My life seems a little fuller now.