Latency problems in Live 8

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otaylor003
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Latency problems in Live 8

Post by otaylor003 » Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:42 pm

Hi there,

I recently bought Live 8 Suite, as I previously had Ableton Live 6. Like many people, I've been impressed by the new features but its currently so buggy that its practically unusable. I was wondering if anyone has noticed the latency increasing significantly?

If I start a new set, there will be very little latency when I play my guitar. However, as soon as I add a few tracks, the latency is totally unusable.

Can anyone help with this? This was not an issue in Live 6 as when I open a song I created in Live 6 it works fine, just Live 8 that has trouble.

The Latency is controlled by the Emu's ASIO buffer - which is at about 5ms.

My set up is as follows:

Q6600 Quad core
Emu 1212m soundcard
Behringer ADA 8000
Focusrite Liquid mix
UAD-1 PCI E Card
4Gb RAM

nfnw
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Re: Latency problems in Live 8

Post by nfnw » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:49 am

Same here...there were more and more poeple using Live as a standard linear sequencer, hopefully Ableton is working on this bug (in live 8 VST latencies also are more dominant...somehow)
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Re: Latency problems in Live 8

Post by jok » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:43 am

Hi Otaylor003,

are you using Live 8.0.3? If not, please download and install it from here:

http://www.ableton.com/latest_versions

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Jörg
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Re: Latency problems in Live 8

Post by otaylor003 » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:07 pm

Jorg,

I downloaded 8.03 the other day and it had the same problems - as I say, its fine when the tracks are empty, but as soon as I add a few VSTs it becomes unusable. I am aware that I can work around this by rendering a song to disk, starting a new set - add in the rendered audio so I can record my guitar with v low latency, and then take this recorded guitar back into the original set - but I'm sure you'll agree its not the ideal solution.

Thanks,

Owen.

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Re: Latency problems in Live 8

Post by jok » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:15 am

Hi Owen,

this problem should have gotten fixed with 8.0.3. However, if you add a couple of VSTs that come with a high latency to either:

- the track you are recording to itself
- a return track
- the master track

then it is technically not possible to compensate this latency while recording. Some plug-ins (for example Vintage Warmer) come with a large amount of latency, I would recommend to avoid using such plug-ins while recording and to add them during the mixdown process.
In case the problem persists on your machine, even though no VSTs are added to the tracks I mentioned above, please contact [email protected], attach a copy of your .als file (no audio files needed).

Best,
Jörg
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otaylor003
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Re: Latency problems in Live 8

Post by otaylor003 » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:22 am

Thanks Jörg,

I'll bear this in mind and give a try over the next few days. Thanks for the quick responses to my query,

Owen.

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Re: Latency problems in Live 8

Post by otaylor003 » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:59 pm

Jörg,

Thanks for your help - I had a number of plug ins on the master bus - which if I delete, removes the latency problem.

However, I noticed that I have to delete them - and if I simply turn them off in Live, the latency remains, even though the plug ins are not active. Will this be sorted in future upgrades?

Cheers,

Owen.

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