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Dub suggestions?

Post by leisuremuffin » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:59 pm

I think i've made it through most of the best stuff at this point.
i've got almost all the stuff on pressure sounds.
i've got a lot of king tubby, scientist, prince jammy, mad professor. wondering where to go next.

latest thing i got that blew my mind was Keith Hudson's "Brand." Really sick record.


But i still haven't found a lee perry dub record that i actually like, what the best one?



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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by twisted-space » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:40 pm

leisuremuffin wrote:
But i still haven't found a lee perry dub record that i actually like, what the best one?



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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by leisuremuffin » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:48 pm

I don't think so. I'll check it out. thanks.


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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by Angstrom » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:52 pm

For a decent Lee Perry I like Megaton Dub

quite hard to find these days though

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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by convex » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:33 am

I think the Perry stuff from the 70's is where you want to be. Trojan released a convenient double disc called Ape-ology not that long ago with the albums Super Ape, Return of Super Ape, and some excellent hard-to-find and unreleased tracks circa Roast Fish and Collie Weed time. Essential stuff if you haven't heard it.

http://www.discogs.com/Lee-Perry-The-Up ... se/1062397

Blackboard Jungle Dub by the Upsetters is great as well. The reissue on Clocktower that I have is utter shit quality, but the tracks are classic Perry productions. There might be a better quality recording available. This one's also good fun for sample-spotters. Particularly fans of The Orb.

I've only heard one track off the Andrew WK-produced Perry album from this past year. Sort of a trainwreck as I remember.

Good luck with it.

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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by palimpsest73 » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:37 am

But i still haven't found a lee perry dub record that i actually like, what the best one?
Look into his early to mid-'70s Black Ark productions: SUPER APE, CLOAK & DAGGER, and REVOLUTION DUB.

Though they're not strictly instrumental dub albums, his vocal productions from this era come highly recommended. His ROAST FISH & COLLIE WEED, Max Romeo's WAR INNA BABYLON, and Junior Murvin's POLICE & THIEVES should be in the collection of any casual fan of reggae -- all contain beautiful, lush, echo-drenched productions.
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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by palimpsest73 » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:41 am

convex wrote: Blackboard Jungle Dub by the Upsetters is great as well. The reissue on Clocktower that I have is utter shit quality, but the tracks are classic Perry productions. There might be a better quality recording available. This one's also good fun for sample-spotters. Particularly fans of The Orb.
+1 to that! BJD is quality, as is the other one on Clocktower, Scratch & Company CHAPTER 1.
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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by convex » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:51 am

Also, the Augustus Pablo album King Tubby Meets The Rockers Uptown should be a cornerstone of any good dub collection. Unstoppable.

Along somewhat more obscure lines, I buy anything on the Wackie's label on sight.

http://basicchannel.com/label/Wackies

A lot of lesser known gems in this bunch. You get the added benefit of the Dubplates and Mastering remastering treatment. Lush sounding records given what many of the original recordings must have sounded like. Go for the vinyl if you can.

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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by Tunecrew » Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:09 am

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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by leisuremuffin » Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:38 am

convex wrote:Also, the Augustus Pablo album King Tubby Meets The Rockers Uptown should be a cornerstone of any good dub collection. Unstoppable.

Along somewhat more obscure lines, I buy anything on the Wackie's label on sight.

http://basicchannel.com/label/Wackies

A lot of lesser known gems in this bunch. You get the added benefit of the Dubplates and Mastering remastering treatment. Lush sounding records given what many of the original recordings must have sounded like. Go for the vinyl if you can.

Yep, i have augustus pablo king tubby meets rockers. classic record.


haven't really liked any of the stuff i've heard on wackies. The only one i actually own is "african roots v3 strictly dubwise." but i've heard some others. What's the strongest wackies release to listen to?


a lot of orb samples on price far-i + the arabs cry tough dub encounter as well. But the really amazing far-i record is cry tough dub encounter chapter 3. I've never seen chapter 2 and i don't know if it exists.



anyway, thanks on all the lee perry tips, i'll give it another shot.


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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by oblique strategies » Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:40 am

Lee Perry didn't mix Dub like the others, he followed his own path (as he is wont to do). So if you're looking for some Lee Perry that sounds like King Tubby, you won't find it. At his most dubbed-out Scratch was often closer to Eno with his sublime use of the Bi-Phase, Roland Space Echo, unusual sounds, & effects.

But if you're open to the Lee Perry experience then a good place to start is his mid -70's Black Ark studio productions (as others have suggested). His real strength is as a producer, arranger, & mixer rather than as a solo artist, so go for his collections.

Super Ape -an all time masterpiece of sublime music. Just gets better & better with time.
Arkology -great 3 CD/LP collection -essential.
Build The Ark -wonderful 2 CD or 3 LP collection -essential.
Voodooism -super collection includes 'River', 'River Stone', 'Wolf Out Deh' & the dub 'Shepherd Rod' -4 songs that illustrate Bi-Phase mania at its most extreme!


More goodies:
Ital Corner -classic Perry tracks with DJ Prince Jazzbo
Columbia Colly -many of his faves with DJ Jah Lion
To Be A Lover -George Faith, some of Perry's most sublime & Eno-esque productions, with a classic soul singer on top


Less Dub & more instrumental albums, & all super groovy. These are Upsetters albums & feature Carlton Barrett on drums & Aston Barrett on bass before they joined forces with Bob Marley, Peter Tosh, & Bunny Livingston to become the greatest incarnation of The Wailers that the world has ever known. Added bonus: the great organist Winston Wright.

Cloak & Dagger (part of the Dub Triptych CD which includes Blackboard Jungle & Revolution Dub)
Scratch The Upsetter Again -greatness galore
Double Seven -some great Moog playing on a few tracks, Perry in a funky mood

Lee Perry had a wide range of music: from songs that sound like 1930's cartoon soundtracks to darkly apocalyptic & baroque dub.
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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by leisuremuffin » Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:44 am

and thanks for he yardedge link, i'll check those out as well.

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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by leisuremuffin » Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:55 am

OK, checked out the Aswad record "new chapter of dub" from the yardedge link. That is fucking awesome. buying now.



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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by oblique strategies » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:22 am

Have you checked out the Blood & Fire compilations? Great, classic King Tubby dub.

Another killer is Keith Hudson's Playing It Cool, absolutely DREAD, nocturnal, heavy duty weirdness!

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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by leisuremuffin » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:35 am

yep i should have mentioned i have most of the blood and fire stuff too.

thanks though.


i'll check out that keith hudson record, he's amazing.




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