Dub suggestions?

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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by oblique strategies » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:23 am

Deadbeat wrote:
In NYC the absolute go to spots for dub are:

Deadly Dragon
http://www.deadlydragonsound.com

Jammy land
http://www.jammyland.com

Absolutely endless selection, like leave the credit card at home deep...
Thanks for the links :)

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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by leisuremuffin » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:59 am

Awesome. I knew about jammy land but not about deadly dragon. Thanks again!




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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by porfiry » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:51 am

I haven't read the whole thread yet, but I see no one has mentioned the Congos - Heart of the Congos. Get.

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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by blakbeltjonez » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:58 am

never much liked Lee Perry all that much... some things here and there, but lots of his stuff just doesn't do it for me.

any of the early Revolutionaries stuff from Channel One is great, not neccesarily super mind blowingly deep in a
Scientist way but you have Sly & Robbie and company banging out rip-offs of Studio One tunes in the rockers style of
the day (mid-70's). "Revolutionary Sounds" is a good one to start with, it's the one that has Che Guevera on the cover,
dunno if it was ever reissued on CD. the material is top notch, there's a Channel One CD comp that has a lot of the
better tunes on there. anything on Channel One/Well Charge/Disco Mix 7"s from that time will be excellent, with punchy production. anything Channel One from the mid-to-late 70's is a pretty sure bet.

The Mighty Two (Joe Gibbs and Errol Thompson, really just E.T.) has always been worth checking out - there was
a compilation out a few years ago on CD, dub mixes of Joe Gibbs singles were always excellent so the CD has got to be pretty good. any Joe Gibbs 7" from '75 through about 1980 will likely have a rocking ass Mighty Two version on the flip.

even though Coxsone Dodd was not a spectacular mix engineer, a lot of the Dub Specialist records he did reworked tracks from
the vast goldmine of Studio One. the actual LP pressings were often horrendous, the CD compilations sound 10x better.

Herman Chin-Loy was a mentor of Augustus Pablo, and together they did some tracks at Dynamic and Randy's that became
one of the very first full length dub albums, called "Aquarius Dub" in '72 or '73. interesting to listen to, you'll hear the stripped
down version of what became Jacob Miller's "Baby I Love You So" which begat "King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown"..... also on that tip, Clive Chin of Randy's fame released "Java" in 1971, which is another thing to check out for a historical perspective.


edit: dunno if anyone posted this link, but it's good for pictures of your favorite classics....

http://dublp.roots-archives.com/

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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by oblique strategies » Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:28 am

You can make your own Dub here!
http://www.infinitewheel.com/infinite_wheel.html

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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by Tunecrew » Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:35 am

blakbeltjonez wrote:never much liked Lee Perry all that much... some things here and there, but lots of his stuff just doesn't do it for me.

any of the early Revolutionaries stuff from Channel One is great, not neccesarily super mind blowingly deep in a
Scientist way but you have Sly & Robbie and company banging out rip-offs of Studio One tunes in the rockers style of
the day (mid-70's). "Revolutionary Sounds" is a good one to start with, it's the one that has Che Guevera on the cover,
dunno if it was ever reissued on CD. the material is top notch, there's a Channel One CD comp that has a lot of the
better tunes on there. anything on Channel One/Well Charge/Disco Mix 7"s from that time will be excellent, with punchy production. anything Channel One from the mid-to-late 70's is a pretty sure bet.

The Mighty Two (Joe Gibbs and Errol Thompson, really just E.T.) has always been worth checking out - there was
a compilation out a few years ago on CD, dub mixes of Joe Gibbs singles were always excellent so the CD has got to be pretty good. any Joe Gibbs 7" from '75 through about 1980 will likely have a rocking ass Mighty Two version on the flip.

even though Coxsone Dodd was not a spectacular mix engineer, a lot of the Dub Specialist records he did reworked tracks from
the vast goldmine of Studio One. the actual LP pressings were often horrendous, the CD compilations sound 10x better.

Herman Chin-Loy was a mentor of Augustus Pablo, and together they did some tracks at Dynamic and Randy's that became
one of the very first full length dub albums, called "Aquarius Dub" in '72 or '73. interesting to listen to, you'll hear the stripped
down version of what became Jacob Miller's "Baby I Love You So" which begat "King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown"..... also on that tip, Clive Chin of Randy's fame released "Java" in 1971, which is another thing to check out for a historical perspective.


edit: dunno if anyone posted this link, but it's good for pictures of your favorite classics....

http://dublp.roots-archives.com/
Herman's easy to find too- he moved Aquarius records from Kingston to south Florida in the mid 90s and there in a little plaza in Cutler Ridge
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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by blakbeltjonez » Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:33 pm

Herman's easy to find too- he moved Aquarius records from Kingston to south Florida in the mid 90s and there in a little plaza in Cutler Ridge

he would no doubt be an interesting guy to ask questions about the Olden Days - i didn't realize he was Leslie Kong's cousin and worked at the Beverley's record store before going on and doing his own thing. the old Aquarius shop was on Constant Springs Road, wasn't it? i am a little too far away in west central FL to swing by his S. FL location......

a lot of the movers and shakers wound up emigrating to the US at some point - the Chins wound up in NYC and started VP Records, which of course became huge. Jojo Hoo-Kim left Jamaica sometime in the mid-late 80's. i think he has a pressing plant in Brooklyn, if remember right.

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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by touched1 » Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:18 am

If you are open to straying from the purist dub sound, anything by Adrian Sherwood is worth looking into. I am partial to Dub Syndicate's "Pounding System", and his Real World Release "Never Trust a Hippy" was pretty great for modern dub. Twilight Circus Sound System is also really great and gives a big nod to the old school masters..

As for Perry, you might want to check out "Revolution Dub".

Or you could click the links at the bottom of my post :D
http://teledubgnosis.com/
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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by UKRuss » Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:08 am

Guns and Cocaine Crime - Dub Syndicate and Jah Bless.

Adrian Sherwood and On-U Sound ftw!

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Re: Dub suggestions?

Post by leisuremuffin » Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:36 pm

oh yeah, i'm a huge fan of Adrian Sherwood and On-U.

anyone have the missing brazilians record, warzone? That's a pretty fucking sick record. Calling that one dub would be a pretty big stretch of the imagination though.



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