Scratching in Live 4.1?

rolly · Post by **rolly** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:05 pm

Is anyone aware of any VST plug-ins that give you virtual control of loops as if you were scratching using turntables? There is also, of course, the matter of interface i.e how much can be realistically achieved with a mouse or a midi controller to simulate scratching with loops. I'm aware of the Serato Scratch plug in that works only with Pro Tools and interfaces with real turntables, but no software that works as a VST instrument that could be used in Ableton.
On a different tack, does anyone have any good tips and tricks for simulating scratching in Ableton? I've used the volume envelope in arrangment view to quickly cut audio samples in and out. Any other ideas?

sickpuppy · Post by **sickpuppy** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:16 pm

yep, chop up your loop into lots of small sections and timestretch them at different rates, really fast, really slow etc as well as reversing some and arrange them how you like...

I've had varied success with this, depends on what sort of effects your after and how 'scratch' like you want it to sound.

the other alternative is the plugin in FruityLoops, that produces excellent results if you put the time into working out how it works and experimenting!

Good luck, of course you could always find scratch sample CD or buy some decks

Winterpark · Post by **Winterpark** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:23 pm

a vst for osx

http://www.interq.or.jp/jazz/kuniox/PitchScraper.sit

rolly · Post by **rolly** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:39 pm

Thanks for the suggestions. I should've mentioned that I've got Ableton installed on a PC.

Zakari Luk · Post by **Zakari Luk** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:06 pm

although its not completely like scratching, i might take a loop, duplicate it, reverse the duplicate, send one to crossfader a and the other to crossfader b, and mess around the crossfader while they play.

majestic · Post by **majestic** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:43 pm

What about Prefuse 73 - I heard somewhere that all his stuff has been done just using an MPC unit...what th' fuck?

BTW, I think you can get a standalone hardware box - Serato Live - that interfaces to OS X and XP. May be wrong, so check their website.

toneroll · Post by **toneroll** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:02 pm

turntablist pro , free vsti for windows

http://bioroid.com/ its not that good tho.... you need to mess around for ages in an audio editor and you might get the results when you warp it back in live and autommate the sample offset on the clip.

Teon · Post by **Teon** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 3:04 pm

Great hardware sample scratcher = Roland DJ-70

Spiralgroove · Post by **Spiralgroove** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 3:10 pm

i use the line in on my soundcard and a turntable...

antiquated technique, but effective.

Deft · Post by **Deft** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:02 pm

Actually it would be cool if someone could write a plug-in or suchlike around the Tascam TTM-1 controller. Works basically like a mouse-ball but does the job pretty well in connunction with the Vestax CDX-05 cd unit.

http://www.tascam.com/Products/TT-M1.html